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Little change to 93L; Brazilian floods kill 42
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:18 PM GMT on June 23, 2010 +6
There has been little change over the past 24 hours to the tropical wave (Invest 93L) located a few hundred miles south of Haiti. The storm has brought heavy rains to the waters south of Hispaniola, with radar precipitation estimates from the Puerto Rico radar of over six inches of rain in the past day. The heaviest rains have avoided land areas so far. Satellite loops show a very disorganized system, with no low-level spiral bands and only limited heavy thunderstorm activity. There are no signs of a surface circulation visible on satellite imagery. Pressures at the ground stations surrounding the storm (Bahahona and Kingston) are not falling. Water vapor satellite loops show that moist air surrounds 93L, though there is a modest patch of dry air to the storm's southwest. This dry air is likely contributing to the lack of heavy thunderstorms on 93L's west side, slowing development. Wind shear is a low 5 - 15 knots. The high wind shear associated with the strong winds of the subtropical jet stream are over the northern Caribbean, too far north to interfere with development, but close enough to provide good upper-level outflow for the storm. Visible satellite loops show high level cirrus clouds streaming away from 93L to the northeast, evidence of the upper-level outflow channel that is developing to the storm's north. Sea Surface Temperatures are plenty warm, a record 29 - 30°C. The Madden-Julian oscillation (MJO) currently favors upward motion over the Caribbean, which will act to increase the chances of tropical storm formation this week. The main negative for 93L continues to be the lack of spin. The University of Wisconsin 850 mb relative vorticity analysis is showing that spin at 850 mb (roughly 5,000 feet in altitude) has increased over the past day, but 93L needs to acquire additional spin before it can grow more organized. The Hurricane Hunters are on call to investigate 93L Thursday afternoon. Today's flight was canceled, due to 93L's lack of development.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of the central Caribbean disturbance 93L.

Track forecast for 93L
NHC is giving 93L a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Friday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Given the storm's current lack of spin and relatively modest amount of heavy thunderstorms, the earliest I'd expect 93L to become a tropical depression would be Thursday afternoon, with Friday more likely. Wind shear is expected to be low, less than 10 knots, over the central and western Caribbean this week. Water temperatures will be warm, dry air limited, and the MJO favorable. I don't see any major impediments to the storm becoming a tropical depression by Friday, except for possible interaction with land. There is a low (less than 20% chance) of 93L becoming a hurricane in the Caribbean. Expect 93L to bring flooding rains of 3 - 6 inches to Jamaica, eastern Cuba, and southwestern Haiti today through Thursday. These rains will spread to the Cayman Islands and central Cuba by Thursday through Friday, and western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula on Friday and Saturday. The current run of the SHIPS model has 93L slowing down late this week to a forward speed of just 7 knots (8 mph) from its current speed of about 10 mph, in response to a weakening in the steering currents. A trough of low pressure is expected to swing down over the Eastern U.S. on Monday. If this trough is strong enough and 93L develops significantly, the storm could get pulled northwards and make landfall along the northern Gulf of Mexico coast. This is the solution of the ECMWF, GFDL, and HWRF models. This seems like a likely solution, since recent runs of most of the models have been showing a stronger trough. If 93L stays weak and/or the trough is not so strong, the storm would get pushed west-northwestwards towards the Texas coast. This is the solution of the NOGAPS and Canadian models, which foresee a more westerly track for 93L across the Yucatan Peninsula, with the storm eventually threatening Texas by Monday or Tuesday. The GFS and UKMET models do not develop 93L. A likely landfall location is highly uncertain this point, and the storm could hit virtually anywhere along the Gulf of Mexico coast from South Texas to the Florida Panhandle given the current uncertainty in its development, and the strength of next Monday's trough that may steer 93L northwards.

Intensity forecast for 93L
Forecasting the amount of wind shear in the Gulf of Mexico next week is problematic. There is currently a band of high shear near 30 knots over the Gulf, and most of the models predict that this band of high shear will lift northwards, keeping low wind shear over the Gulf next week. This should allow 93L to intensify to at least a 50 mph tropical storm, as predicted by the HWRF model. The GFDL and ECMWF models are calling for 93L to become a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, and this is certainly a possibility. I expect 93L will become Tropical Storm Alex in the Gulf of Mexico next week, and give a 20% chance that it will become a hurricane.

Elsewhere in the tropics
None of the reliable computer models is calling for tropical cyclone formation in the Atlantic over the next seven days.


Figure 2. Total accumulated precipitation in millimeters (left) for the 7-day period ending at 8am EDT June 21, 2010. The yellow colors (200+ mm, 8+ inches) are where extreme flooding was observed. Satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument (right) for June 17, 2010, showing heavy thunderstorms over the Alagoas state of Brazil. Image credit: NASA and NOAA Climate Prediction Service.

Floods in Brazil kill dozens
Heavy rains over the past week in the northeast state of Alagoas in Brazil have led to major flooding that has killed at least 42 people. Six hundred people are still missing. This weekend rains in Alagoas and Pernambuco states are the latest in a series of devastating floods to strike Brazil this year. Since the start of Brazil's rainy season last November, 488 people have been killed by flooding and 7.5 million have been affected in 10 states. Much of the heavy rains can be blamed on El Niño, which ended in May. In April, flooding and landslides triggered by torrential rain killed at least 229 people and did $13.3 billion in damage in the Rio de Janeiro area.

It's been a bad year for floods, and there are two other major flooding disasters that have occurred in the past week. In China, the death toll has risen to 211 people, with 119 people missing, because of flooding in the southern portion of the country. France suffered a flash flood last week that killed 25.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
East to southeast winds of 10 - 15 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico today through Sunday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The resulting weak ocean currents should push the oil to the west and northwest onto portions of the Louisiana and Alabama coasts, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. I would expect Mississippi to have its most serious threat of oil yet early next week as these winds continue. The longer range outlook is uncertain, and will depend upon what 93L does.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

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3401. stillwaiting 12:39 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
looks like any COC is just south of jamaica IMO...
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3402. Chicklit 12:40 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Hi Jeff, I'd like to add a new term:
LOADD
Can be 'Lack of Appreciable Development Depression' or,
'Lack of Appreciable Development Drama' depending upon how the victim emotes.
(Also classified under "Baggage," a much larger category, often requiring assistance of a professional.)

Anyway, there is still too much going on for this system to form any one strong center of circulation; however, the overall pattern is certainly ominous.
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3406. apocalyps 12:41 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
I see an eye.....
In the mirror.
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3407. IKE 12:42 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
I notice there's 40 knots of shear at the Yucatan channel and plenty of shear to 93L's WNW. Seems to be the outflow from Darby. Once it moves on west, which it is forecast to, that may help relax the shear where 93L is headed....93L isn't going anywhere fast. If it did it would get sheared....

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3408. twhcracker 12:42 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I have never seen anything like this with a blog and I'm debating about never coming on here again. If you have a political view that is different than the blog majority then you get trashed and if you give your opinion where a storm is going to because it just makes sense then you again get trashed. I really do appreciate the few who are supportive.


the way I see it jeff, just let it go and roll off your back. its ok to be right sometimes. its ok to be wrong sometimes. I dont think i have ever said anything even half way believable on here but nobody argues because i fully admit to my ignernce. you can let others be wrong. you can let them be right. shrug. and a 13 year old is to be allowed some mistakes i think... anyway. jmo. i hope you stick around and state your opinions but if someone says you are wrong, just let them. maybe they are right. you can be wrong sometimes. we all can!
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3409. HurricaneFCast 12:42 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting twhcracker:


what about the two in the pacific tho? They were always so close together when forming. just curious. are they close but not close enough or something?


Right now, they are just outside what would be considered "in-range" for the fujiwhara to take effect. The two are about 950 miles apart, and most meteorologists consider 900 miles to be the key number in order to see a fujiwhara effect. I wouldn't doubt a slight interaction between those systems, but you won't see a pronounced effect. Some people have the misconception that if two systems experience the fujiwhara effect, they'll eventually merge. In reality, that is a very rare occurrence, but it can happen. What truly happens is that each vortex will move (the vortex will become distorted, if you will) in response to the other vortex (or vortices, if there are more than 2 interacting). The motion is caused by the mutual advection of the symmetric vorticity of each vortex. It is similar to the relationship between the Earth and the Moon, but in meteorology, one system is almost always stronger than the other, and that one tends to dominate the effect, meaning they will not begin a symmetric orbit about each other.. The larger system will have a greater effect on the smaller system's track.
Also, even a moderate synoptic pressure system (High or Low) can quickly override this interaction, which is why you never see two cyclones orbiting each other for weeks at a time.
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3410. stillwaiting 12:42 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
looks to be due south to me(any coc forming)is very near 17N,82W thats my best idea of a centers poistion..
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3411. apocalyps 12:44 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
The center is in the middle
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3412. CyclonicVoyage 12:45 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Updated 15min ago



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3413. IKE 12:45 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Nothing at 17 and 82 but a naked spin.
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3416. apocalyps 12:47 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Nothing at 17 and 82 but a naked spin.


A dressed spin would be odd
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3418. CaneWarning 12:48 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Which adult are you referring too?


Jeff
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3419. CybrTeddy 12:49 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
So far throughout its lifespan, 93L has been doing exactly what the ECMWF has said.
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3420. Drakoen 12:49 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Nothing at 17 and 82 but a naked spin.


Low level spin looks around 16.5N 80.9W
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3423. Tazmanian 12:49 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
93L RIP
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3424. stillwaiting 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
if your 31 or 13 ALL are welcome IMO,and anyone regardless of age,that is bickering on our blog should be met w/a ban,however opinions are opinions and most of us on the board just love wx,just my 2cents...and the elders on the blog try to help the younger ones and be mature enough to ignore any trollish comment,my advise:don't get sucked in/emotional to a argument in the first place,thats what the ignore button is for or just don't respond.......
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3425. CyclonicVoyage 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
16.5N 81.5W heading just south of due west, IMO.

Corrected, 81.5. Too much blood in my coffee stream this morning.
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3427. stormwatcherCI 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


being less combative in rebuttals, perhaps with a few less GEESHs and NICEs, would also set a great example of how to engage in civil debate.

in fact, this forum is the place to post your opinion (even if it is wrong) ... that is how learning takes place. this forum is not the place to play one-upsmanship with anyone.
+1
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3428. wunderkidcayman 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
I see the COC at 17.2N 77.2W moving W
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3429. LavosPhoenix 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
the 11:45 UTC Rainbow pic looks like a racehorce running away from a seahorse...
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3430. CaneWarning 12:50 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I agree. I am not a met or I wouldn't switched from meteorolgy to fiance as i am better with business fiance. That is what my degree is in. I am wrong at times but I am also right as well. I am fine with being wrong but I just don't like when I'm personally attacked like I was yesterday by Cane and others. I am by no means a met so i will be wrong.


I never once personally attacked you. It's a shame, I had just taken you off ignore too. Back you go. I'm tired of it.
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3432. gator23 12:52 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


As i put it so well as you suggest Jeff..."geeesh" so its ok to post something that is false and completely false just because it is an opinion!....since when is Geesh and Nice so bad when everyone puts LOL behind many comments......Whatever!

Yes it is ok to write something that is false, if you dont know any better. your GEESHES and NICE are annoying. And its not ok sinc eyou are putting people down. The difference is you insult people and people posting "false" things isnt insulting you
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3433. nrtiwlnvragn 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Satellite derived position:

AL, 93, 201006241200, 70, ANAL, P, , 1680N, 8140W

Not ATCF, and Ike ANAL = analysis :)
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3434. 69Viking 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Good morning everyone, are we going to play nicer today? What happened to the rotation that was SW of Jamaica at the end of the day yesterday? It looks like all the action has shifted East and more in line with the scenario Jeff9641 stated yesterday and boy was his opinion attacked! I think even the seasoned Meteorologists have been having a tough time figuring this system out so let's play nice today and not attack someone just for having a difference of opinion, and yes I'm guilty of it myself sometimes. Until this thing forms there are no definites.
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3435. TampaSpin 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I agree. I am not a met or I wouldn't switched from meteorolgy to fiance as i am better with business fiance. That is what my degree is in. I am wrong at times but I am also right as well. I am fine with being wrong but I just don't like when I'm personally attacked like I was yesterday by Cane and others. I am by no means a met so i will be wrong.


The differnce Jeff, is how we handle it when we are wrong. Funny, how some wanna complain about simple little one phrase words that avoid big blog arguments which allow life to go one.....but, some adults and kids don't understand that i guess....."geeesh".......LOL
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3436. apocalyps 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
nice
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3437. CaneWarning 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Well, I can see the blog is going to be full of drama today! I'll be back in a bit.
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3438. weathermanwannabe 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Civil debate is the key without attacks on anyone....With an active season coming around and Dr. Masters geeting a lot of publicity (as he well should) for providing this service to the Public, and us, lots of folks will be checking on here this year for information and we need to respect Dr. M and not "soil" the purpose of this Blog; to learn and comment on tropical systems...If someone attacks you, ignore them; the rest of the readers will respect you more for not responding.
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3439. IKE 12:53 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
*calls in valium refill to Wal-Mart*
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3440. apocalyps 12:54 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
geeesh
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3441. HurricaneFCast 12:54 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting weathermanwannabe:
Civil debate is the key without attacks on anyone....With an active season coming around and Dr. Masters geeting a lot of publicity (as he well should) for providing this service to the Public, and us, lots of folks will be checking on here this year for information and we need to respect Dr. M and not "soil" the purpose of this Blog; to learn and comment on tropical systems...If someone attacks you, ignore them; the rest of the readers will respect you more for not responding.

+1,000,000
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3442. IKE 12:55 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
Satellite derived position:

AL, 93, 201006241200, 70, ANAL, P, , 1680N, 8140W

Not ATCF, and Ike ANAL = analysis :)


If that's what the actual location is...this system is almost on life-support.
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3443. WatchingThisOne 12:55 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting stillwaiting:
looks like any COC is just south of jamaica IMO...


If so, take a look at Figure 1 of Dr. Masters original post ... perhaps the coc has not moved at all !!!
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3444. gator23 12:55 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


The differnce Jeff, is how we handle it when we are wrong. Funny, how some wanna complain about simple little one phrase words that avoid big blog arguments which allow life to go one.....but, some adults and kids don't understand that i guess....."geeesh".......LOL


Thats false, i guess I should jump all over you about it...
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3445. ecflweatherfan 12:56 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Good morning all... Looking at the latest RGB imagery, it almost appears that 93L is beginning to congeal just a little bit South of Jamaica. Still having a hard time picking out the dominant LLC though. Seeing mid-level swirl SSE of Kingston
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3446. stillwaiting 12:56 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
hey greenme!!!!,awsome video loop,welcome to the board;)
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3447. apocalyps 12:57 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
i see a pinguin in the coc
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3448. 69Viking 12:57 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
*calls in valium refill to Wal-Mart*


LOL, it might be needed today neighbor!
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3449. Drakoen 12:57 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting 69Viking:
Good morning everyone, are we going to play nicer today? What happened to the rotation that was SW of Jamaica at the end of the day yesterday? It looks like all the action has shifted East and more in line with the scenario Jeff9641 stated yesterday and boy was his opinion attacked! I think even the seasoned Meteorologists have been having a tough time figuring this system out so let's play nice today and not attack someone just for having a difference of opinion, and yes I'm guilty of it myself sometimes. Until this thing forms there are no definites.


Jeff pointed out a convective mid level swirl that dissapated. The action as far as a low level swirl is still well southwest of Jamaica. Buoy reported pressures around 1008mb.
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3450. TampaSpin 12:57 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
Quoting apocalyps:
geeesh


LOL.......NICE TOO!
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3451. CyclonicVoyage 12:57 PM GMT on June 24, 2010    
If one believes the models, 93L should pull a hard right here pretty soon.

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