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Igor an impressive Cat 4; 92L running out of time to develop; Julia forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:47 PM GMT on September 13, 2010 +6
There are few sights in the natural world more impressive than a hurricane near maximum intensity. Hurricane Igor certainly fits that description this morning, as it flirts with Category 5 strength in the Central Atlantic. Igor's rapid intensification burst brought the mighty hurricane's winds to 150 mph, just shy of the 156 mph threshold for Category 5 status. Igor is the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic in three years. The last hurricane stronger that Igor was Category 5 Hurricane Felix of 2007.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Igor.

Intensity forecast for Igor
Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next four days. Waters are warm, 28.5°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. These conditions should allow Igor to remain at major hurricane status for the next four days. The hurricane will probably undergo one of the usual eyewall replacement cycles intense hurricanes commonly have, where the eyewall collapses and a new eyewall forms from an outer spiral band. This will weaken the hurricane by 10 - 20 mph when it occurs, but Igor will probably regain its lost intensity when the cycle completes. There's no evidence that an eyewall replacement cycle is imminent today, so Igor could potentially strengthen a bit more. However, I believe Igor has peaked, and will not reach Category 5 status today. By Saturday, when Igor should be nearing Bermuda, the trough of low pressure steering Igor northwestwards should bring moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the storm, weakening it.

Track forecast for Igor
The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor will move west under the influence of a strong ridge of high pressure until Tuesday morning, then turn more to the west-northwest then northwest in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic on Tuesday and Wednesday. This should allow Igor to pass several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In the longer range, Igor appears likely to be a threat to Bermuda, and that island can expect tropical storm force winds as early as Friday. Igor does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 15% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 10% for Bermuda and 10% for Canada. The forecast steering pattern for the period 5 - 10 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows a continuation of the pattern we've seen all hurricane season, with regular strong troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast. This pattern favors Igor eventually recurving out to sea without hitting the U.S. or Canada. While the trough expected to recurve Igor out to sea is not as sharp as the troughs that recurved Danielle, Earl, and Fiona, it should still be strong enough to keep Igor from hitting the U.S. However, Newfoundland, Canada could see a close pass. An examination of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location (Figure 2) reveals that one of these hurricanes went on to hit the Bahamas and Florida as a Category 2 storm, and another hit Newfoundland as a Category 1 storm. The other eight missed land. One wild card may be the intensification of Julia behind Igor. If Julia develops into a hurricane and moves close to Igor, as some of the models are suggesting, the two hurricanes could interact, affecting the track of Igor unpredictable ways. However, it currently appears the Julia will be much weaker than Igor, and will probably have little impact on her big brother's track.


Figure 2. Historical plot of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location.

Caribbean disturbance 92L
Tropical disturbance (92L) over the Central Caribbean, centered about 100 miles south of Jamaica, has changed little over the past day. The storm remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression, but time is running out for it to do so. Satellite loops this morning do not show a surface circulation, but 92L does have a moderate area of intense disorganized thunderstorms that are bringing heavy rain to Jamaica this morning. Kingston, Jamaica has picked up 0.67" of rain thus far this morning from 92L.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Forecast for 92L
Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate for the next five days. The waters beneath are hot, 29.8°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L, and this dry air has been interfering with development of 92L. NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday at 40%. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become any stronger than a tropical storm with 50 mph winds by Wednesday, when it will move over Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L to a second landfall in Mexico several hundred miles south of the Texas border. A Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 92L this afternoon.

Julia
Tropical Storm Julia formed between the Cape Verdes Islands and coast of Africa yesterday, bringing some heavy rain squalls and gusty winds to the Cape Verdes, but no sustained winds of tropical storm force. Julia is headed northwest, out to sea, and it is unlikely that this storm will trouble any land areas . Shear is low enough over the next few days to allow Julia to become a hurricane, but shear will rise sharply 4 - 5 days from now, limiting the potential for Julia to become a major hurricane.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS model is calling for a new tropical depression to form off the coast of Africa 6 - 7 days from now.

Next post
I'll have a new post Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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1201. aspectre 7:26 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Over 4&1/2hours late but...

HurricaneIgor's heading had turned southward to (9.6degrees west of) WestSouthWest
from its previous heading of (6.1degrees north of) dueWest
H.Igor's average speed moving between its last 2 reported positions was ~10.2mph(~16.4km/h)

12Sep . 09amGMT - - 17.7n44.4w - - - 80mph - - 988mb - - NHC.Adv.#16
12Sep . 03pmGMT - - 17.7n45.7w - - 105mph - - 970mb - - #17
7:30pmGMT H.Igor becomes 140mph-Cat.4
12Sep . 09pmGMT - - 17.7n46.9w - - 140mph - - 942mb - - #19
13Sep . 03amGMT - - 17.6n47.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #20
13Sep . 09amGMT - - 17.7n48.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #21
13Sep . 03pmGMT - - 17.5n49.7w - - 150mph - - 933mb - - #22

Copy&paste 17.7n45.7w-17.7n46.9w, 17.7n46.9w-17.6n47.8w, 17.6n47.8w-17.7n48.8w, 17.7n48.8w-17.5n49.7w, puj, pos, 17.5n49.7w-14.7n60.9w into the GreatCircleMapper for a look at the last 24*hours.

Using straightline projection upon the speed&heading averaged
over the 6hours spanning the last two reported positions:
~71hours from now to Martinique

* The westernmost line-segment is the straightline projection.
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1202. will40 7:26 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting WatchingThisOne:


It won't feel that weakness until Friday. Until then, it should track west.


Friday? look at the NHC cone
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1203. JupiterFL 7:26 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Legion:


What happened, did Igor's cone lose its "head"?


Sometimes when forecasts are derived in 3rd world countries they never get one.
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1204. Neapolitan 7:26 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Hot tub! Ha! Da!
Ah-full of water!
I say hot tub! Ha!
Day! Ba! Very, very hot... Very hot! Da!
Hot tub! Gonna get ya hot-a!
Gonna make ya sweat! Hey! Say!

CLICK FOR LARGER IMAGE

Tropical weather-related image
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1205. weatherwart 7:27 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting TampaFLUSA:

You don't have to explain yourself. if you notice the people doing the mocking have a low rating anyway.


Ratings? What you talkin' 'bout Willis?
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1206. clwstmchasr 7:27 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Africa not yet ready to stop the gift-giving for the year. One coming off tomorrow around 14N, and three others lined up behind it at the normal 2-3 day interval:

CLICK FOR LARGER IMAGE

Tropical weather-related image


I thought the one behind Julia was suppose to come off much further south and be the one that would could be a big problem. Has the wave moved more north in the past 48 hours?
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1207. hydrus 7:27 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

That is a remarkable photo.
Especially that the Royal Palm survived what were obviously extraodinary winds.
But also, the trees in the background have their leaves intact...
Very strange....
Hey Pott... If you look closely at that photo, you can tell it was taken a long time after the incident. There is evidence of that from the discoloration underneath where the board pierced the tree from the rain and weather. Hence the leaves on the tree,s
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1208. Chucktown 7:27 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Looks like Igor will hit his next TFP. Slight turn to WNW now evident.

Link
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1209. NOLALawyer 7:28 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
No conus hit this year. Wow, after all the hype. Now I know I will never listen to any seasonal forecast. I know season isn't over but we all know the later it gets the odds diminish greatly of a US landfall. Hope it stays this way for a long time.

We are the peak of the season. I would not close the book just yet....

Plus, Hermine was most definitely a CONUS hit. People died, property was destroyed. It had a major impact.
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1212. Floodman 7:29 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting hurricanehanna:

the older I get, the simpler I want things :)


Makes it easier to keep all those balls in the air...LOL
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1213. dmaddox 7:29 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Chucktown:
Looks like Igor will hit his next TFP. Slight turn to WNW now evident.

Link
not likely IMO.. will be South of it..
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1215. reedzone 7:30 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Difference in shading as the eye expands a little. Go to the NHC site, select the visible floater for Igor and black out all the images but the first one and the last one...looks due west


That's awesome, deff. due west!
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1216. 1900hurricane 7:30 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Latest Microwave pass (I've been waiting hours for this one!). Looks like a subtle and low-profile ERC may be occurring:

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1217. RJT185 7:30 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting tatoprweather:


True. Check the steering patterns that we had that year during Georges. Tell me what you see : )


I remember Georges all too well.
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1219. rareaire 7:30 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Link new word now "derecho" pretty cool we have a new definition for those straight line winds...
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1220. IKE 7:31 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Chucktown:
Looks like Igor will hit his next TFP. Slight turn to WNW now evident.

Link


It does look like it may have started turning just a hair north of west...or maybe it's the angle of the setting sun. Will wait for next few frames.
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1221. dmaddox 7:31 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
what else does it have to do to become a cat 5!?? geesh!!
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1222. hurricanehanna 7:32 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Makes it easier to keep all those balls in the air...LOL

funny, they stressed calculus in school, but never even offered juggling! lol
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1225. hurricanehanna 7:33 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting will40:


Friday? look at the NHC cone
If I remember correctly, they had to keep moving Earl's "turn to the North" for days
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1226. miamiheat 7:33 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
1053. reedzone 6:50 PM GMT on September 13, 2010
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Haha. Of course... your cone points towards Fl at the end...


well,i remember when you doomcastered "Ida" last year as the "Perfect Storm" lol
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1227. MrNatural 7:33 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Seems that Igor is slowing down. This is causing the cyclone to spend more time over the same waters. This is probably causing some cooling to occur. This is evidenced by the warmer cloud tops now. I also believe that this slower speed portends the start of the change in direction that has been forecast for days.
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1228. Floodman 7:33 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Chucktown:
Looks like Igor will hit his next TFP. Slight turn to WNW now evident.

Link


Sorry, sparky; he's going to miss the next point by a tenth of a degree (a little more, but I'm rounding) if he continues as he is...that is from center position to center position; if you want to use his expanded eyewall, then he might just make it
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1229. PrivateIdaho 7:33 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting aspectre:
Over 4&1/2hours late but...

HurricaneIgor's heading had turned southward to (9.6degrees west of) SouthSouthWest
from its previous heading of (6.1degrees north of) dueWest
H.Igor's average speed moving between its last 2 reported positions was ~10.2mph(~16.4km/h)

12Sep . 09amGMT - - 17.7n44.4w - - - 80mph - - 988mb - - NHC.Adv.#16
12Sep . 03pmGMT - - 17.7n45.7w - - 105mph - - 970mb - - #17
7:30pmGMT H.Igor becomes 140mph-Cat.4
12Sep . 09pmGMT - - 17.7n46.9w - - 140mph - - 942mb - - #19
13Sep . 03amGMT - - 17.6n47.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #20
13Sep . 09amGMT - - 17.7n48.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #21
13Sep . 03pmGMT - - 17.5n49.7w - - 150mph - - 933mb - - #22

Copy&paste 17.7n45.7w-17.7n46.9w, 17.7n46.9w-17.6n47.8w, 17.6n47.8w-17.7n48.8w, 17.7n48.8w-17.5n49.7w, puj, ngd, pos, 17.5n49.7w-14.7n60.9w into the GreatCircleMapper for a look at the last 24*hours.

Using straightline projection upon the speed&heading averaged
over the 6hours spanning the last two reported positions:
~71hours from now to Martinique

* The westernmost line-segment is the straightline projection.
Thanks for the link to the GreatCircleMapper...very handy!
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1230. tatoprweather 7:34 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
Hey Pott... If you look closely at that photo, you can tell it was taken a long time after the incident. There is evidence of that from the discoloration underneath where the board pierced the tree from the rain and weather. Hence the leaves on the tree,s


Yeah.. I do remembered that palm. No coconut water for my whiskey for so many weeks. : )
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1232. oracle28 7:34 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting NOLALawyer:
No conus hit this year. Wow, after all the hype. Now I know I will never listen to any seasonal forecast. I know season isn't over but we all know the later it gets the odds diminish greatly of a US landfall. Hope it stays this way for a long time.

We are the peak of the season. I would not close the book just yet....

Plus, Hermine was most definitely a CONUS hit. People died, property was destroyed. It had a major impact.
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1233. Jax82 7:34 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
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1234. pottery 7:35 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
Hey Pott... If you look closely at that photo, you can tell it was taken a long time after the incident. There is evidence of that from the discoloration underneath where the board pierced the tree from the rain and weather. Hence the leaves on the tree,s.

Brilliant Sleuthing, Watson!!

Good point.

Also, thinking about the thing, if you got a 10' long 2"x4" shifting along at say, 100MPH, and it had a reasonably pointed end (like this one seems to have - far end), it would perforate Most materials.

Also, we just lost a Royal Palm in the garden here last year. By the time the top fell off, the trunk was quite hollow, with walls about 4" thick.
I do not know if this is the normal growth pattern..
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1235. hydrus 7:35 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting tatoprweather:


Yeah.. I do remembered that palm. No coconut water for my whiskey for so many weeks. : )
That is why God put fruit on that island my friend...:)
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1236. will40 7:35 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting hurricanehanna:
If I remember correctly, they had to keep moving Earl's "turn to the North" for days


yes but this cone is different it shows the turns already
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1237. SQUAWK 7:35 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting Vero1:
"Gonzo" is flying in 92L

And it appears "Kermit" is headed to IGOR

Kermit doesn't carry enough fuel to go that far. He is probably pre-positioning for a flight tomorrow.
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1238. spartankicker 7:35 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting oracle28:


They've been correct this season so far.


In their first few runs after Earl formed, they called for him to move east of Bermuda or a direct hit to Bermuda. Absolutely correct.
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1240. dmaddox 7:36 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
this is just amazing! love the stadium effect with the shadow of the eyewall! speed it up!! Link
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1241. oracle28 7:37 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
(edit)
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1242. IKE 7:37 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
92L looks to be near 17N and 79W....moving west to WNW....Link
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1243. hydrus 7:37 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

Brilliant Sleuthing, Watson!!

Good point.

Also, thinking about the thing, if you got a 10' long 2"x4" shifting along at say, 100MPH, and it had a reasonably pointed end (like this one seems to have - far end), it would perforate Most materials.

Also, we just lost a Royal Palm in the garden here last year. By the time the top fell off, the trunk was quite hollow, with walls about 4" thick.
I do not know if this is the normal growth pattern..
One thing I do know, palm trees are Very strong when they are healthy. They are some tough S.O.B,s.
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1244. hurricanehanna 7:38 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
as a friendly reminder from your insurance agent, be sure to read your homeowner policy - if it excludes wind/hail coverage, buy a separate policy NOW as you can't bind coverage in the CONUS when named storms hit certain latitudes/longitudes. Yeah, I know, common sense, but....
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1245. ILwthrfan 7:38 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting dmaddox:
not likely IMO.. will be South of it..


I agree, its the fact his eye has grown larger that it gives it the illusion that wobbling northward. Seems to me he's still due west 270.
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1247. belizewunderfan 7:38 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Our National Emergency Management Organizarion just issued its first alert on 92L. We are improving in Belize - not waiting till the very last minute :)
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1248. konch 7:38 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
At great personal risk, I must ask, is that not Gaston's Ghost forming circulating convection off the west coast of Central America?

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/epac/flash-vis.html
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1249. sailingallover 7:38 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting hurricanehanna:
If I remember correctly, they had to keep moving Earl's "turn to the North" for days

Igor is not Earl
The current surface analysis is totally different from when Earl was supposed to follow Danille.
There is a huge weakness caused by large troughs rather than a wake from Danille.
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1250. oracle28 7:39 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting spartankicker:


In their first few runs after Earl formed, they called for him to move east of Bermuda or a direct hit to Bermuda. Absolutely correct.


Really?
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2010/graphics/al07/loop_5W.shtml
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1251. weatherwart 7:39 PM GMT on September 13, 2010    
Quoting alfabob:


I noticed a new wall trying to form at a decent distance from the center a few hours ago on visible. That image helps show that there is some structure which could support an EWRC; although it's not going to be a quick transition. Think the eye is big already? just wait a day or two.


There may be a second eyewall trying to form. I think I can see it in the link dmaddox posted.

Link
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