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Igor an impressive Cat 4; 92L running out of time to develop; Julia forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:47 PM GMT on September 13, 2010 +6
There are few sights in the natural world more impressive than a hurricane near maximum intensity. Hurricane Igor certainly fits that description this morning, as it flirts with Category 5 strength in the Central Atlantic. Igor's rapid intensification burst brought the mighty hurricane's winds to 150 mph, just shy of the 156 mph threshold for Category 5 status. Igor is the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic in three years. The last hurricane stronger that Igor was Category 5 Hurricane Felix of 2007.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Igor.

Intensity forecast for Igor
Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next four days. Waters are warm, 28.5°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. These conditions should allow Igor to remain at major hurricane status for the next four days. The hurricane will probably undergo one of the usual eyewall replacement cycles intense hurricanes commonly have, where the eyewall collapses and a new eyewall forms from an outer spiral band. This will weaken the hurricane by 10 - 20 mph when it occurs, but Igor will probably regain its lost intensity when the cycle completes. There's no evidence that an eyewall replacement cycle is imminent today, so Igor could potentially strengthen a bit more. However, I believe Igor has peaked, and will not reach Category 5 status today. By Saturday, when Igor should be nearing Bermuda, the trough of low pressure steering Igor northwestwards should bring moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the storm, weakening it.

Track forecast for Igor
The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor will move west under the influence of a strong ridge of high pressure until Tuesday morning, then turn more to the west-northwest then northwest in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic on Tuesday and Wednesday. This should allow Igor to pass several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In the longer range, Igor appears likely to be a threat to Bermuda, and that island can expect tropical storm force winds as early as Friday. Igor does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 15% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 10% for Bermuda and 10% for Canada. The forecast steering pattern for the period 5 - 10 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows a continuation of the pattern we've seen all hurricane season, with regular strong troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast. This pattern favors Igor eventually recurving out to sea without hitting the U.S. or Canada. While the trough expected to recurve Igor out to sea is not as sharp as the troughs that recurved Danielle, Earl, and Fiona, it should still be strong enough to keep Igor from hitting the U.S. However, Newfoundland, Canada could see a close pass. An examination of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location (Figure 2) reveals that one of these hurricanes went on to hit the Bahamas and Florida as a Category 2 storm, and another hit Newfoundland as a Category 1 storm. The other eight missed land. One wild card may be the intensification of Julia behind Igor. If Julia develops into a hurricane and moves close to Igor, as some of the models are suggesting, the two hurricanes could interact, affecting the track of Igor unpredictable ways. However, it currently appears the Julia will be much weaker than Igor, and will probably have little impact on her big brother's track.


Figure 2. Historical plot of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location.

Caribbean disturbance 92L
Tropical disturbance (92L) over the Central Caribbean, centered about 100 miles south of Jamaica, has changed little over the past day. The storm remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression, but time is running out for it to do so. Satellite loops this morning do not show a surface circulation, but 92L does have a moderate area of intense disorganized thunderstorms that are bringing heavy rain to Jamaica this morning. Kingston, Jamaica has picked up 0.67" of rain thus far this morning from 92L.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Forecast for 92L
Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate for the next five days. The waters beneath are hot, 29.8°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L, and this dry air has been interfering with development of 92L. NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday at 40%. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become any stronger than a tropical storm with 50 mph winds by Wednesday, when it will move over Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L to a second landfall in Mexico several hundred miles south of the Texas border. A Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 92L this afternoon.

Julia
Tropical Storm Julia formed between the Cape Verdes Islands and coast of Africa yesterday, bringing some heavy rain squalls and gusty winds to the Cape Verdes, but no sustained winds of tropical storm force. Julia is headed northwest, out to sea, and it is unlikely that this storm will trouble any land areas . Shear is low enough over the next few days to allow Julia to become a hurricane, but shear will rise sharply 4 - 5 days from now, limiting the potential for Julia to become a major hurricane.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS model is calling for a new tropical depression to form off the coast of Africa 6 - 7 days from now.

Next post
I'll have a new post Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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3201. JLPR2 3:23 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Its been 5 years since I practiced.

Es esta mejor?


I got that last one :)
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3202. markot 3:23 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
why do some you say it going north, nw, will hyou plz open yur eyes, and look. it is going due west, models just saywhat it might do, its not doing it.....
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3203. zoomiami 3:23 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting PcolaDan:


This is the same thing that happened with Earl. I kept trying to point out that yes, it was till going west when it was supposed to turn, but it was still in the cone each time. People seem to think the first cone is gospel sometimes.


I think its because people want simple, and they want it now. A comment above says they are doing a bad job because they give themselves too much room for error. The error margin is what it is, and it has decreased by leaps and bounds in the last ten years. Makes me wonder about how many inflexible people there are.
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3204. JLPR2 3:23 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:

Too much bumping rofl.


LOL!
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3207. weatherxtreme 3:24 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
When will Igor go thru an EWRC, next 12 hrs. or so?
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3209. JLPR2 3:25 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting bird72:

Ahora tenemos una nueva Susan, Deborah Martorel, le preguntaron si habia que vigilar a Igor y dijo que no, que no habia ningun tipo de peligro por que se hiba para el norte. Lo mismo dijo de Earl y me quede sin mi arbol de aguacates.


LOL!
A guy on Univison did say Igor would pass close to our northeast, just 500miles. LOL!
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3210. brainpimp 3:25 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting KanKunKid:


I think you said Igor isn't in the position to hit the Island it is a big retard.


OK that almost got me shooting diet coke out my nose.
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3211. Chicklit 3:25 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Oh well, I give up. Igor is not making a sharp right turn. goodnight.
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3213. CybrTeddy 3:26 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


I got that last one :)


mi espanol es muy mal y feo.

Anyways, here's the weakness I mentioned in my poor attempt to speak a complicated sentence in Spanish.
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3214. atmoaggie 3:26 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
the T# decline continues:
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3215. weatherxtreme 3:26 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
doomcasting again eh? or is it westcastin?
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3216. sunlinepr 3:26 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Pine Grove in Isla Verde, you'll see 30-40 surfers, if Igor passes north

Quoting cat5hurricane:
Puerto Rico & the islands...they are sure gonna get there fair share of high surf.
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3217. StormJunkie 3:26 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


I hate the stupid cone. It is a product of the given path, and is therefore rendered useless by actual path changes. It moves, so a storm will ALWAYS be within the cone.

"In the cone" doesn't mean anything because Location X could have been outside the cone 5 days ago, yet today be faced with a CAT 5.


I don't hate the cone...But this is why I wish they would make the map a java or flash script where you could overlay each previous forecast cone in different colors. Would think that would also provide some interesting verification purposes as well as giving us something fun to debate.
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3218. 1900hurricane 3:27 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
MICROWAVE AND GEOSTATIONARY SATELLITE IMAGERY SUGGESTS THAT AN
EYEWALL REPLACEMENT CYCLE MAY HAVE BEGUN. TRMM...WINDSAT...AND
SSMIS PASSES FROM ABOUT 5-6 HOURS AGO ALL INDICATED THAT A
SECONDARY EYEWALL WAS BEGINNING TO FORM...AND MORE RECENTLY
CONVECTIVE TOPS AROUND THE EYE HAVE BEEN WARMING.

I'm really confused right now. This is all stuff I was pointing out earlier (secondary return maxima on 85GHz and the warming of the cloud tops, especially those adjacent to the eye), but even the NHC didn't think it was an ERC, but now that the trend has continued, they think it is? Or has something else happened?
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3220. luigi18 3:27 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


I got that last one :)


ok ahora si esta mejor pero ese contrallao no coje para arriba
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3222. truecajun 3:28 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Igor has been listening to country music
"Go West, young man. Haven't you been told? Californias full of whiskey, women, and gold."

Just kidding. I think he'll make the turn tonight.
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3224. bird72 3:28 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


I hate the stupid cone. It is a product of the given path, and is therefore rendered useless by actual path changes. It moves, so a storm will ALWAYS be within the cone.

"In the cone" doesn't mean anything because Location X could have been outside the cone 5 days ago, yet today be faced with a CAT 5.

Can you just post this at least one hundred times, maybe someone get it......
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3227. JLPR2 3:28 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


mi espanol es muy mal y feo.

Anyways, here's the weakness I mentioned in my poor attempt to speak a complicated sentence in Spanish.

Seems the high the pressure to the west is why the trof didn't get to Igor, but that weakness looks good.
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3228. luigi18 3:29 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


mi espanol es muy mal y feo.

Anyways, here's the weakness I mentioned in my poor attempt to speak a complicated sentence in Spanish.


why he is not turning?
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3229. atmoaggie 3:29 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
From about 45 minutes ago:


Decline evident, compared to the same images from a couple of hours back.
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3230. Chicklit 3:29 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
I wouldn't wait up for him. Hopefully you'll get the good news tmrw. You should anyway. Nite

nite cat5. nice pup.
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3231. pottery 3:29 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


or with the word poverty.

Not Pottery. Poverty.

Pottery. Poverty. Same dam thing...

heheheheh
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3232. sunlinepr 3:29 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
I think no one of the PR meteorologists, have noticed or commented about the posibility of a direct strike by Igor.... At least until tonight....
No quieren crear panico.... pero el panico llegara si tienen que decir que viene pa encima a ultima hora....
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3233. 1celia70 3:30 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
the GFS model has picked up on a strong hurricane in the western caribbean and then into the gulf around the time sept 24thru28 ... any information on this .. or still too early
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3234. CybrTeddy 3:30 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Anyways, I'm off to bed. You'll know if there is a significant and meaningful change in track / intensity in a bad way if I exclaim 'Great Scott!'

Night
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3236. zoomiami 3:30 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


I hate the stupid cone. It is a product of the given path, and is therefore rendered useless by actual path changes. It moves, so a storm will ALWAYS be within the cone.

"In the cone" doesn't mean anything because Location X could have been outside the cone 5 days ago, yet today be faced with a CAT 5.


Only the 3 day cone is accurate - the 5 day cone only started two years ago, and they may remove it, as it confuses too many people.

Max Mayfield was very frustrated about this very issue. People expect to be told exactly where it is going, but the reality is that they can only determine within approx 75-100 miles.
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3238. JLPR2 3:31 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting sunlinepr:
I think no one of the PR meteorologists, have noticed or commented about the posibility of a direct strike by Igor.... At least until tonight....
No quieren crear panico.... pero el panico llegara si tienen que decir que viene pa encima a ultima hora....


A direct hit seems unlikely but a closer than expected pass to the NE is in the possibilities. (though not likely)
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3239. StormJunkie 3:31 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


YES YES YES..... you do well with the gif you make.

I would like to see the NHC tracks overlayed on a static background. different colors is a good idea, too.


Exactly...Static background and then you can overlay the past 12-24 cones in color. It is something that could be done on any site. For someone that has the know how and just a little time. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to Learn that, as I have more pressing things to Learn at this point. So with out someone telling me then it is just one of those things that will have to fall in to TMI for right now.
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3241. ElConando 3:32 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
From about 45 minutes ago:


Decline evident, compared to the same images from a couple of hours back.


Some dry air entrainment I see as well.
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3243. sunlinepr 3:33 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Well we are located in 18.5N With the current trayectory to reach 18.5N can take years....

Quoting JLPR2:


A direct hit seems unlike but a closer than expected pass to the NE is in the possibilities. (though not likely)
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3244. JLPR2 3:33 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Most of the models said, to the WNW almost immediately and it isn't turning, lets see how that turns out.
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3245. truecajun 3:33 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting 1celia70:
the GFS model has picked up on a strong hurricane in the western caribbean and then into the gulf around the time sept 24thru28 ... any information on this .. or still too early


a homegrown maybe?? could be a stalled front
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3247. bird72 3:33 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
I bet my assassinate avocado tree by Earl, that some guys in the NHC are right now, praying Igor go north!!!!!!!!!!!
They know we are talking about them, if they fail, their ears are going to explode...lol
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3248. StormJunkie 3:34 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
They should, and I agree, but don't think it'd happen. It'd just expose all their mistakes even more.


it would just be matter of downloading or creating a script to parse the latest forecast coordinates and the cone...Save the images to a server, and then have a java or flash player that calls them. Not an un-doable project for someone in the know.
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3251. beell 3:35 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Wow. you really get a sense of Igor's power by watching the feeder bands ripping around the core-especially on the S and SE sides.

Can I say "dude!"?

Igor IR Floater
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