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Igor an impressive Cat 4; 92L running out of time to develop; Julia forms
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:47 PM GMT on September 13, 2010 +6
There are few sights in the natural world more impressive than a hurricane near maximum intensity. Hurricane Igor certainly fits that description this morning, as it flirts with Category 5 strength in the Central Atlantic. Igor's rapid intensification burst brought the mighty hurricane's winds to 150 mph, just shy of the 156 mph threshold for Category 5 status. Igor is the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic in three years. The last hurricane stronger that Igor was Category 5 Hurricane Felix of 2007.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Igor.

Intensity forecast for Igor
Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low for the next four days. Waters are warm, 28.5°C, and will warm to 29°C by Wednesday. Igor has moistened its environment enough to keep the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) at bay. These conditions should allow Igor to remain at major hurricane status for the next four days. The hurricane will probably undergo one of the usual eyewall replacement cycles intense hurricanes commonly have, where the eyewall collapses and a new eyewall forms from an outer spiral band. This will weaken the hurricane by 10 - 20 mph when it occurs, but Igor will probably regain its lost intensity when the cycle completes. There's no evidence that an eyewall replacement cycle is imminent today, so Igor could potentially strengthen a bit more. However, I believe Igor has peaked, and will not reach Category 5 status today. By Saturday, when Igor should be nearing Bermuda, the trough of low pressure steering Igor northwestwards should bring moderate wind shear of 10 - 20 knots to the storm, weakening it.

Track forecast for Igor
The track forecast for Igor remains unchanged. Igor will move west under the influence of a strong ridge of high pressure until Tuesday morning, then turn more to the west-northwest then northwest in response to the steering influence of a broad trough of low pressure moving across the Western Atlantic on Tuesday and Wednesday. This should allow Igor to pass several hundred miles to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles. In the longer range, Igor appears likely to be a threat to Bermuda, and that island can expect tropical storm force winds as early as Friday. Igor does have a small chance of making landfall on the U.S. East Coast or Canada. Climatology shows that about 15% of all tropical cyclones that have existed at Igor's current position have gone on to hit the U.S. East Coast; these odds are about 10% for Bermuda and 10% for Canada. The forecast steering pattern for the period 5 - 10 days from now from the ECMWF and GFS models shows a continuation of the pattern we've seen all hurricane season, with regular strong troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast. This pattern favors Igor eventually recurving out to sea without hitting the U.S. or Canada. While the trough expected to recurve Igor out to sea is not as sharp as the troughs that recurved Danielle, Earl, and Fiona, it should still be strong enough to keep Igor from hitting the U.S. However, Newfoundland, Canada could see a close pass. An examination of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location (Figure 2) reveals that one of these hurricanes went on to hit the Bahamas and Florida as a Category 2 storm, and another hit Newfoundland as a Category 1 storm. The other eight missed land. One wild card may be the intensification of Julia behind Igor. If Julia develops into a hurricane and moves close to Igor, as some of the models are suggesting, the two hurricanes could interact, affecting the track of Igor unpredictable ways. However, it currently appears the Julia will be much weaker than Igor, and will probably have little impact on her big brother's track.


Figure 2. Historical plot of the tracks of the ten major September hurricanes that have passed closest to Igor's current location.

Caribbean disturbance 92L
Tropical disturbance (92L) over the Central Caribbean, centered about 100 miles south of Jamaica, has changed little over the past day. The storm remains a threat to develop into a tropical depression, but time is running out for it to do so. Satellite loops this morning do not show a surface circulation, but 92L does have a moderate area of intense disorganized thunderstorms that are bringing heavy rain to Jamaica this morning. Kingston, Jamaica has picked up 0.67" of rain thus far this morning from 92L.


Figure 3. Morning satellite image of 92L.

Forecast for 92L
Wind shear over 92L is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate for the next five days. The waters beneath are hot, 29.8°C, and these warm waters extend to great depth. Water vapor satellite loops show a large area of dry air lies to the north and west of 92L, and this dry air has been interfering with development of 92L. NHC is putting the odds of 92L developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday at 40%. Given the current disorganized state of 92L, it would be difficult for it to intensify quickly enough to become any stronger than a tropical storm with 50 mph winds by Wednesday, when it will move over Belize and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. Once 92L crosses the Yucatan, the ridge of high pressure steering it is expected to remain in place, forcing 92L to a second landfall in Mexico several hundred miles south of the Texas border. A Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 92L this afternoon.

Julia
Tropical Storm Julia formed between the Cape Verdes Islands and coast of Africa yesterday, bringing some heavy rain squalls and gusty winds to the Cape Verdes, but no sustained winds of tropical storm force. Julia is headed northwest, out to sea, and it is unlikely that this storm will trouble any land areas . Shear is low enough over the next few days to allow Julia to become a hurricane, but shear will rise sharply 4 - 5 days from now, limiting the potential for Julia to become a major hurricane.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS model is calling for a new tropical depression to form off the coast of Africa 6 - 7 days from now.

Next post
I'll have a new post Tuesday morning.

Jeff Masters
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3251. beell 3:35 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Wow. you really get a sense of Igor's power by watching the feeder bands ripping around the core-especially on the S and SE sides.

Can I say "dude!"?

Igor IR Floater
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3253. StormJunkie 3:35 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
I'd also like to see that done with spaghetti plots too DJ...
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3254. sunlinepr 3:35 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Current WV

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3255. AWeatherLover 3:35 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
They should, and I agree, but don't think it'd happen. It'd just expose all their mistakes even more.


The tools are there to do it yourself. You can download everything in shapefiles and overlay them using ArcGIS.
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3257. Orcasystems 3:36 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

Pottery. Poverty. Same dam thing...

heheheheh


Pottery :)
Is it still raining, up your end?



AOI
AOI AOI
AOI
AOI AOI AOI

TS BUSTED FORECAST ALIBI
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3259. StormJunkie 3:37 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting AWeatherLover:


The tools are there to do it yourself. You can download everything in shapefiles and overlay them using ArcGIS.


Now just need someone to write some script to automate that whole process and I'll throw it up on the sj server.
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3260. JLPR2 3:37 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
An eye?
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3261. SevereWeather 3:38 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Commentary:

I feel today is the day that this blog "Jumped The Shark." If you aren't familiar with the history of that phrase, just Google it and it will be self-explanatory.

I fear that this blog may have suffered irreversible damage today. I have been signed up on the blog for a few weeks but have been lurking for several years. Today, I have seen folks that I have respected over the years for their informative comments, willingness to share sources of information and willingness to share experience and education, sink to new lows in wasted bandwidth.

Frankly, it has been shocking to see some of the names that have been engaged in this behavior since the mess started this morning. I know the precise post where it began, and while I think there was a possible over-reaction to begin with, the parties continued to bait each other with one of the parties in particular borderline abusive in their comments.

I, as well as others that view this blog, do so for several reasons:

1. We are weather enthusiasts
2. We are awed by God's awesome display of nature
3. We are interested in tropical weather and the machinations of forecasting it
4. We love to experience the strange awe/fear of an approaching tropical system
5. We want to have some good-natured fun and fellowship

It is shameful what has occurred today. I think the events of this day may have serisouly affected the ability of some to enjoy this blog in the ways we have previously.

You should be ashamed of yourselves. What you perceive as "debate" was more often than not perceived as mean-spirited bickering.

I'm not sure this is something I want to be a part of moving forward, which is a shame because I feel like I have learned much reading this blog. I'll sleep on it and maybe I'll feel better about it in the morning.

I do suggest that those who have been involved think about your actions today and the feelings that have been bruised. Perhaps some apologies are in order and maybe some swallowing of pride.

Tomorrow is another day...
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3263. IamTheCanesSurfer 3:38 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Friday
Surf: Knee to waist high E ground swell for the morning with occasional stomach high sets. This builds in the afternoon with sets up to chest high.

Saturday
Surf: Waist to chest high E ground swell with occasional shoulder high sets.

Sunday
Surf: Chest to shoulder high E ground swell.

Monday
Surf: Knee to waist high mix of ENE short period wind swell and E ground swell with occasional stomach sets.
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3264. truecajun 3:38 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
nite everyone
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3265. sunlinepr 3:39 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Posible Eye


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3267. NRAamy 3:40 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Pott!!!!!! How's my non-husband?

:)
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3268. Melagoo 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
DID 92L evaporate?
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3269. JLPR2 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
This confirms that Julia may be trying to form an eye.

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3270. CaribBoy 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting bird72:
I bet my assassinate avocado tree by Earl, that some guys in the NHC are right now, praying Igor go north!!!!!!!!!!!
They know we are talking about them, if they fail, their ears are going to explode...lol


lol
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3271. atmoaggie 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting StormJunkie:


Now just need someone to write some script to automate that whole process and I'll throw it up on the sj server.
Blah!

With that, G' Nite.
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3272. aspectre 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
HurricaneIgor's heading had turned westward to dueWest
from its previous heading of (7.8degrees west of) WestNorthWest
H.Igor's average speed moving between its last 2 reported positions was ~7.7mph(~12.3km/h)

12Sep . 09pmGMT - - 17.7n46.9w - - 140mph - - 942mb - - NHC.Adv.#19
13Sep . 03amGMT - - 17.6n47.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #20
13Sep . 09amGMT - - 17.7n48.8w - - 150mph - - 935mb - - #21
13Sep . 03pmGMT - - 17.5n49.7w - - 150mph - - 933mb - - #22
13Sep . 09pmGMT - - 17.7n50.5w - - 150mph - - 933mb - - #23
14Sep . 03amGMT - - 17.7n51.2w - - 140mph - - 937mb - - #20

Copy&paste 17.6n47.8w-17.7n48.8w, 17.7n48.8w-17.5n49.7w, 17.5n49.7w-17.7n50.5w, 17.7n50.5w-17.7n51.2w, puj, pos, 17.7n51.2w-17.38n62.75w into the GreatCircleMapper for a look at the last 24*hours.

Using straightline projection upon the speed&heading averaged
over the 6hours spanning the last two reported positions:
~4days3hours from now to St.Kitts

* The westernmost line-segment is the straightline projection.
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3273. luigi18 3:41 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:
An eye?
hey shuuu! do you think this cabro make a final turn yes or no ?
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3274. NRAamy 3:42 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Damn....what did I miss today?!
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3276. truecajun 3:43 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
severe weather, i was on here earlier today. i didn't pick up on anything. it must have gone over my head. i'll just assume it's best i'm in the dark.
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3278. JLPR2 3:43 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
It is interesting that Igor is weakening as it enters hotter and deeper waters.
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3279. pottery 3:43 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Pottery :)
Is it still raining, up your end?



AOI
AOI AOI
AOI
AOI AOI AOI

TS BUSTED FORECAST ALIBI

ORCA!!
How COULD you?

But, no, it stopped raining and created a Magnifico Light Show toward Venezuela.
Lightening from cloud to cloud for an hour or more.
Some of the flashes seemed to spring out of the cloud in several sprangs at once. Like fireworks....
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3280. sunlinepr 3:43 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
For the last 2 nights 92L goes to sleep... and wakes up in the morning....

Quoting Melagoo:
DID 92L evaporate?
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3281. JLPR2 3:43 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting luigi18:
hey shuuu! do you think this cabro make a final turn yes or no ?


Julia should stay out in the Atlantic.
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3282. atmoaggie 3:44 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Oh, wait. One more.

The statistical probability of a PR landfall based on the tracks of all past storms in our archives:
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3283. luigi18 3:44 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


Julia should stay out in the Atlantic.


iam talking about to pana Igor~
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3285. DaytonaBeachWatcher 3:44 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Missed?? A little foot stomping, chest pounding, and some occasional whining. The usual.
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3286. brainpimp 3:44 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


Hang your head in shame, Blog.


Lighten up, Francis.
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3287. NRAamy 3:45 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Jeff....was it a weather weenie beat down?

;)
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3288. atmoaggie 3:45 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


StormSai got challenged.
And I'm not so sure that SJ isn't correct about it all...

But I was busy at the time...and haven't read back to get every word.
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3289. JLPR2 3:45 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Oh, wait. One more.

The statistical probability of a PR landfall based on the tracks of all past storms in our archives:


There is actually a chance for it now, but it is still too low. :D
Huzzah!
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3290. atmoaggie 3:45 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting NRAamy:
Jeff....was it a weather weenie beat down?

;)
Not like what you might think...
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3291. Melagoo 3:45 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting sunlinepr:
For the last 2 nights 92L goes to sleep... and wakes up in the morning....



Doubt it will wake up ... looks totally dead
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3293. hurricane556 3:46 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
2010SEP14 030000 3.4 995.2/ +0.0 / 53.0 3.4 3.9 5.4 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -23.68 -61.29 EYE 15 IR 15.60 28.00 FCST
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3294. truecajun 3:46 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


StormSai got challenged.


stormW? by whom?
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3295. atmoaggie 3:46 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:


Commas save lives.

Read that somewhere.
lmao
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3296. PSLFLCaneVet 3:46 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Quoting SevereWeather:
Commentary:

I feel today is the day that this blog "Jumped The Shark." If you aren't familiar with the history of that phrase, just Google it and it will be self-explanatory.

I fear that this blog may have suffered irreversible damage today. I have been signed up on the blog for a few weeks but have been lurking for several years. Today, I have seen folks that I have respected over the years for their informative comments, willingness to share sources of information and willingness to share experience and education, sink to new lows in wasted bandwidth.

Frankly, it has been shocking to see some of the names that have been engaged in this behavior since the mess started this morning. I know the precise post where it began, and while I think there was a possible over-reaction to begin with, the parties continued to bait each other with one of the parties in particular borderline abusive in their comments.

I, as well as others that view this blog, do so for several reasons:

1. We are weather enthusiasts
2. We are awed by God's awesome display of nature
3. We are interested in tropical weather and the machinations of forecasting it
4. We love to experience the strange awe/fear of an approaching tropical system
5. We want to have some good-natured fun and fellowship

It is shameful what has occurred today. I think the events of this day may have serisouly affected the ability of some to enjoy this blog in the ways we have previously.

You should be ashamed of yourselves. What you perceive as "debate" was more often than not perceived as mean-spirited bickering.

I'm not sure this is something I want to be a part of moving forward, which is a shame because I feel like I have learned much reading this blog. I'll sleep on it and maybe I'll feel better about it in the morning.

I do suggest that those who have been involved think about your actions today and the feelings that have been bruised. Perhaps some apologies are in order and maybe some swallowing of pride.

Tomorrow is another day...
Word.
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3298. sunlinepr 3:47 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
Well it looks like the record heat of the waters evaporated 92L

Quoting Melagoo:


Doubt it will wake up ... looks totally dead
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3301. DaytonaBeachWatcher 3:47 AM GMT on September 14, 2010    
I do have to say Jeff, you do make me LOL quite often.
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