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| Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:36 PM GMT on December 14, 2010 | +5 |

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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.
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The next thing that will happen is the Dolphins will win the Superbowl.
Oh wait.. That is when Hell freezes over...
154 inches since May 14th.
Also, the water temp off of Clearwater Beach is 47!
1998 is not an outlier. It was a step/jump and now the new "normal" if you will. I focus on it because it shows an apparent pattern that I believe will hold. Temps were flat prior, then a jump, then flat again from 1998 forward. Time will tell if it holds.
For it to be an outlier, temps would have had to gone back down to pre-1998 levels, but they have not. Again, 1998-2009 is flat in general. As was 1979-1997.
Really no need for debate about it. The data will tell. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just pointing out a pattern that I see.
So far, it is holding through 2009, and will through 2010. We'll see how 2011, 2012, etc. turn out.
Again, just an obs. Some may find it significant and/or interesting. Some may not.
As for the GISS/NASA data, I mentioned earlier I will plot that for you. Still flat for 1998 forward, just that the "step" is higher.
But, no matter. I use the better technology of Sat data with the greater spacial coverage.
How much of the actual earth does the GISS cover with actual readings? Have tried to find it, but to no avail. Haven't looked all that hard, though. A map would be perfect.
I believe the Sat data is 25km resolution of the entire planet. That resolution is exactly why it is better. You can argue that it isn't, but that's a tough sell. Higher resolution is better. Maybe why the same pattern hasn't been identified yet. Resolution wasn't there prior to 1979.
As for your "every" comment, did I ever say the planet has not warmed? Nope. Quite the opposite. I clearly showed that starting in 1998, the planet is warmer than it was from 1979-1997.
Again, you are free to pay no attention to it and to rely on the GISS data set. And, again, I'll plot the GISS data for you for 1998-2010 when I get home.
Just so you are aware, that graph in Doc's post was changed. There was a correction to the data. The +0.72C was revised to +0.64. March was actually higher at +0.66C.
OK out the door to head home.
Yes, it's been hotter. But remember, it's not so much that it's been hotter (or colder) in the past; it's how fast the current heating has been and is taking place. With the exception of catastrophic and cataclysmic events such as large asteroid strikes and the like, the planet has never experienced such a rapid and drastic temperature change. And since civilization as we know it wasn't around for any of the previous changes, it's not at all certain how--or even whether--our population of 6,887,000,000 (and counting) will be able to cope.
Ditto.
Any idea anybody on why?
I myself do use these forecasts on when to plant and in general they have been very good... except this time.
Make sure you have anti Freeze in your car radiator... I "think" one of our members did not, and right now they (she) is trying to figure out why her vehicle over heated 5 minutes after she left the house.
I think you are correct on this... when this happens there will be the immediate conversions occur as when the ozone hole was discovered.
However, with CFC's, there is a rather disturbing article from a Yale prof that came out today about CFC's and European cap-and-trade
Yale work on cap and trade
The gist of it is that most of the EU carbon money (about a billion dollars) is going to China to destroy CFC's (at about 10x the price) that they manfacture (some of which make it onto the black market anyway).
Energy tax needed.
Anyway, from Gore's list himself
Gore's Repower List
I am not a Gore fan. But his list is at least a good start. Renewables will take about 30 years in a market cycle so forget that for right now (it is going as fast as it can be expected). But...
As a conservative there is nothing conservative about wasting energy. America wastes 1/2 of the energy in their homes, about $1,500 per year on average. We not only need to worry about government waste but our own personal waste. Stop all waste.
Second, Goldman-Sachs (ya I know and am not a fan of them either) has recently reported that the global oil supply/demand picture has been running a 600,000 barrel per day deficit. Come on. Mass transit. Flex hours. Stop spending this money on roads.
I am not a fan of the smart grid given what I have seen (have very low energy use house, solar, what do you want?) and don't think it will make much difference. When you go into the utility companies statements anyway they talk about 2 to 3 percent anyway. Ugh on that.
Efficiency and transport are things that should be argued now.
Better to move up North where its warm :)
1998 was an outlier, even by your own definition. Now, you can keep claiming that the global temperature has flatlined since then, but there are reams of valid and verified data that say otherwise. 1998 was a hot year, yes. 2003 was only slightly cooler. 2005 was as warm as 1998 (and actually warmer according to NASA), and 2010 has been the warmest meteorological year ever recorded. How anyone can look at those numbers and try to claim that it's not getting warmer is completely beyond me.
In short, the 1970s were warmer than the 1960s; the 1980s were warmer than the 1970s; the 1990s were warmer than the 1980s; the 2000s were warmer than the 1990s, and--if this year is any indication (and it is), the 2010s will be warmer than the 2000s were. (And I'll go out on a very short limb here: unless things change drastically, the 2020s will be substantially warmer than the 2010s.)
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I take you're in far N CFL to get the ~16F. Currently no CLD in site:
Winds are light upstream... a mainly 5MPH to 10MPH is you're lucky on non WND protected areas:
In my opinion it will be worst... unless the High pressure moves quicker offshore and brings modified maritime airmass into our area which I unfortunately don't see happening quite just yet.
Saints won the Super Bowl last year. Hell has already frozen over at least once for sure!
I actually can appreciate that sentiment BUT that doesn't negate the fact that oil supply is less than demand right now NOR the fact that the Chinese are aiming to double their efficiency. And looking forward to their resource strapped future they are ramping up renewables.
My smart meter is a rip off (Gore is heavily invested in those). Actually has increased what I and others pay in electric bills (unlike Gore's hype). See
Link
I have an okay plan (ain't perfect) but it turned out that efficiency improvements I have made to reduce 18% base use... some of those... benefit the retail electric provider. These smart meters if not structured properly can actually give disincentives to efficiency improvements.
But what do you expect from something mandated by the government? 2005 energy bill to be precise, but it turns out that the smart meter provisions were by a coal state dem.
I definitely agree with that. I just wanted to point out, since a lot of folks do think he is great, that some of his stuff makes sense.
But when somebody installs solar, gets a smart meter, and then gets nothing for generated electricity, that is wrong. Dead wrong.
Evening all,My dewpoint is at 10.5 The temp has dropped 6 degrees in the last hour. Going down to 20 tonight.
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