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95L drenching the Keys, could develop into a tropical depression
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:12 PM GMT on October 17, 2011 +23
A large low pressure system centered about 100 miles north of Mexico's Yucatan peninsula, Invest 95L, is bringing heavy rains to Western Cuba and South Florida. Rainfall amounts in excess of 3 inches have been common across South Florida since Saturday; Miami has picked up 3.40" as of 10 am EDT this morning, and Key West Naval Air Facility recorded 9.72". Rains of 5 - 8 inches have fallen over much of the Florida Keys and Central Cuba since Sunday, according to radar rainfall estimates from the Key West Radar. Long-range radar out of Key West shows rain is affecting most of South Florida south of Fort Myers, but there is no obvious spin to the echoes, and no evidence of organized spiral bands forming. Satellite loops show that 95L has a respectable amount of heavy thunderstorm activity that is increasing in areal coverage. There is no evidence of a well-formed surface circulation trying to develop, though surface observations in the Western Caribbean do show that 95L has a broad counter-clockwise circulation. Two ships to the north of 95L's center measured sustained winds in excess of 30 mph this morning, but no land stations are reporting sustained winds over 30 mph. Water temperatures over the regions are near 29°C, which is plenty warm to support a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 95L.


Figure 2. Predicted rainfall for the 5-day period ending 8 am Saturday October 22, 2011. Image credit: NOAA/HPC.

Wind shear over 95L is currently a moderate 10 - 20 knots, and is expected to stay in the moderate range through Tuesday night. NHC is giving the system a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday, and has scheduled a hurricane hunter aircraft to investigate the system this afternoon at 2 pm EDT. The models are generally showing only weak development of 95L. The storm is currently moving north at 5 - 10 mph, but should turn to the northeast by Tuesday afternoon, as it gets caught up by an approaching trough of low pressure. This trough should pull 95L into the west coast of Florida on Tuesday night or Wednesday morning between Fort Myers and St. Marks. Portions of southwest Florida could receive up to 5 inches of rain from 95L; locations to the north of Tampa will less rain, due to the large amount of dry air over the northern Gulf of Mexico that will affect the northwestern portion of the storm. Once 95L meets up with the trough, wind shear will rise sharply, and it is unlikely 95L will be able to grow any stronger than a 50 mph tropical storm before landfall occurs. It is more likely that 95L will have top winds of 35 - 45 mph Tuesday night near the time of landfall.

Another area of disturbed weather in the Eastern Atlantic, 1400 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands, has developed a modest degree of spin, but has very limited heavy thunderstorm activity. NHC is giving this system a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday.

Jeff Masters
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5. islander101010 2:15 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
tha;nnks dr masters
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6. RipplinH2O 2:15 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Thanks Jeff...
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8. mahep1911 2:23 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Does he mean St marks near tallahasee florida?
thats a large area between Fort myers and St Marks
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9. pmzqqzmp 2:26 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting mahep1911:
Does he mean St marks near tallahasee florida?
thats a large area between Fort myers and St Marks


I did hear them say on the TV this morning there is still a great deal of uncertainty of where it exactly will hit Florida.
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10. Sfloridacat5 2:28 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
35-45 mph at landfall. That would be a T.S. if we can get a closed Low.
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11. pmzqqzmp 2:29 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
I have this question......

Is it probable that this storm is lopsided to the east & southeast, and that means most of the wind and raid will be over South Fla, even if the actual center goes in more like St Pete or Ft Meyers ?

I am guessing no shutters put down for this one right ?
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12. pmzqqzmp 2:29 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Oh can tornadoes still be a threat, even if a small one ?
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13. SPLbeater 2:33 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
good to see here in NC we might git some rain:D
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14. MahFL 2:34 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Actually the swirl seems to be doing ok and indeed getting a bit more solid. It's moving around pretty fast though.
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15. WeatherfanPR 2:34 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
the models agree on a path very close to Tampa Bay Area or maybe a little north of us.

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16. ProgressivePulse 2:34 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting pmzqqzmp:
I have this question......

Is it probable that this storm is lopsided to the east & southeast, and that means most of the wind and raid will be over South Fla, even if the actual center goes in more like St Pete or Ft Meyers ?

I am guessing no shutters put down for this one right ?


Heaviest activity is always in the front right quadrant. A storm heading NE would mean the heaviest activity would be in the SE quadrant.
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17. Sfloridacat5 2:35 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting pmzqqzmp:
Oh can tornadoes still be a threat, even if a small one ?



There is always the threat of tornadoes with any landfalling tropical system.
Due to the limited time over water, I don't think you'll need to put down your shutters.

The worst of the weather should stay on the east side of the system, and typically the right side of an approaching storm (moving to the north) is the strongest side.
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18. masonsnana 2:36 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Thanks Dr. M Guess we'll have to see what the recon finds. Raining a bit heavier here in Cape Coral. Looks like the rain is training from the GOM.
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19. FLWeatherFreak91 2:36 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:


Heaviest activity is always in the front right quadrant. A storm heading NE would mean the heaviest activity would be in the SE quadrant.
No not really. The heaviest would be in the NE quadrant where the forward motion of the storm enhances the wind speeds on the right half of the storm. In this case though, the areas to the SE of the center will receive the most rain.
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20. SPLbeater 2:37 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
O.o looky at the swirl north of the Yucatan....direct north, just of the coast, very fascinating...
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21. WeatherfanPR 2:37 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
tornadoes is what I'm most concerned right now
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22. MahFL 2:37 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Hm, another llc maybe trying to form further east than the naked swirl.
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23. Sfloridacat5 2:38 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting SPLbeater:
O.o looky at the swirl north of the Yucatan....direct north, just of the coast, very fascinating...


Many post in the previous blog about that feature. It's just a low level swirl and not the LLC.
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24. will40 2:39 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting MahFL:
Hm, another llc maybe trying to form further east than the naked swirl.


it has always been east. The strongest coc is near 86W
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25. WeatherfanPR 2:40 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
usually the north and northeast quadrant of a storm or hurricane is where the most strong and active weather will be.
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26. TampaSpin 2:40 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
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27. scott39 2:48 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:
AH-HA..... Now I see it!
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28. Tropicsweatherpr 2:48 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Thank you Dr Masters for the update. Let's see what the plane finds this afternoon.
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29. will40 2:49 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
the lowest pressure is near 86 also
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30. shawn26 2:51 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
New center forming at 87.5 23.5 in my opinion.
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31. Littleninjagrl 2:52 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Hi everyone,

I am in Tampa, Fl and have a question. For the system that is headed our way, is it supposed to make landfall during the day tomorrow or tomorrow night?

Im just trying to figure out if I should send my son to school tomorrow and go to work. I know this isn't a major storm or anythign but our area gets kind of flooded just from normal summer storms. I don't want to be caught out in the mess.

Thanks!!!
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32. Greenizz 2:54 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
So I live in the Tampa area....I am planning on taking the day off from work since I travel 50 miles roundtrip to and from my office and have trouble with flooding roads and idiot drivers. Should I take Tuesday or Wednesday off to avoid the worst of the weather?
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33. ProgressivePulse 2:55 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting WeatherfanPR:
usually the north and northeast quadrant of a storm or hurricane is where the most strong and active weather will be.



That's why it's better to say front right because N and NE only applies to a storm heading west. This is true because the leading edge is relative to the direction of storm travel as the low is always spinning counter-clockwise.
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34. will40 2:55 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting Littleninjagrl:
Hi everyone,

I am in Tampa, Fl and have a question. For the system that is headed our way, is it supposed to make landfall during the day tomorrow or tomorrow night?

Im just trying to figure out if I should send my son to school tomorrow and go to work. I know this isn't a major storm or anythign but our area gets kind of flooded just from normal summer storms. I don't want to be caught out in the mess.

Thanks!!!


late tomorrow nite or early wed morn
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35. Littleninjagrl 2:56 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting will40:


late tomorrow nite or early wed morn


Thank you!
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36. RevInFL 2:56 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
There are so many communities in Central Florida that are still reeling from the last storm. They don't need more rain. Brevard County received a ton of rain last storm. This will surely widened the flooding. Please be prepared!
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37. will40 2:57 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting Littleninjagrl:


Thank you!


welcome
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38. islander101010 2:58 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting RevInFL:
There are so many communities in Central Florida that are still reeling from the last storm. They don't need more rain. Brevard County received a ton of rain last storm. This will surely widened the flooding. Please be prepared!
no major flooding here that ive seen st johns is at moderate range
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39. Hurricane1956 2:58 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
In my opinion,a lot of people are concentrating or talking about the center of circulation,going up North,I believe all the bad weather will be South of Naples all of South Florida and the Keys,will get the best of this system (meaning rain and some wind),right now the COC is a naked swirl,all the heavy and nasty weather is to the East and South East of the COC,it might try to form a new center further East under all this heavy weather between the Yucatan channel and the west coast of Florida.This is just my Amateur opinion,looking at the satellite presentation,at this point the Models don't mean much!.
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41. masonsnana 3:01 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
I'm so shocked how quiet it is in this blog. What happend does anyone know? Normally it would be so busy it would be hard to keep up.

My comp crashed a month ago and just got back on. Did I miss something?
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42. Buhdog 3:02 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Sure looks to make a move NE seems its already goin. Up to 5 inches locally in next 24 hours it says


Link
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43. will40 3:03 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting ARMudWeather:
We got Rina folks. Just came out with the 11am update. Looks to be heading toward Tampa area or Big Bend.


there is no 11:00 update
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44. libertygirl 3:03 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
A little too late, major fail, with local flood warnings not issued until after the fact, this a.m. at 9:30. Here in Key West, we have reported rainfall totals up to 7" and still counting. Many streets were/are becoming impassable, with cars flooding out, in route, blocking roads...on the way to school and work. Local authorities, radio, etc., all silent on reporting developing conditions. Nothing new for old time residents, who always chant - "if you want to know the weather, look out the window" or independently search radar development. I am sure the tens of vehicle owners with flooded cars, left to flooded out streets are not happy with the lack of public broadcasting. You can't even reach them, by phone, to call in and report. Epic fail. Time to break out the kayaks...
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45. kshipre1 3:04 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
NHC website still shows 60% chance but no named storm
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46. will40 3:04 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting kshipre1:
NHC website still shows 60% chance but no named storm


because there isnt one
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47. kshipre1 3:06 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
exactly, that's what I thought. unless the NHC has not updated thier website but that would be highly unusual especially if a named storm occurs
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49. will40 3:06 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting kshipre1:
exactly, that's what I thought. unless the NHC has not updated thier website but that would be highly unusual especially if a named storm occurs



he can get banned from posting that crap
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50. WeatherfanPR 3:06 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:



That's why it's better to say front right because N and NE only applies to a storm heading west. This is true because the leading edge is relative to the direction of storm travel as the low is always spinning counter-clockwise.



if is a weak system I think it depends also on wind shear factor. for example in this case of 95L the wind shear is mostly from west to east so the heaviest part is on east and that's why we see naked swirls and convection east or well east or northeast of the center.
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51. TampaSpin 3:10 PM GMT on October 17, 2011    
Conditions at 42003 as of
(9:50 am CDT)
1450 GMT on 10/17/2011

Wind Direction (WDIR): ESE ( 110 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 23.3 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 29.1 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 7.5 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 8 sec
Average Period (APD): 5.9 sec
Mean Wave Direction (MWD): ESE ( 106 deg true )


Almost Tropical Storm force winds now and this bouy is a ways away from the center
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