Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Bill Proenza gone; tropical update
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 8:35 PM GMT on July 09, 2007 +2
With hurricane season fast approaching and internal strife threatening "the effective functioning of the National Hurricane Center", as stated in a letter signed by 23 of NHC's 49 employees, NOAA did the best thing by reassigning director Bill Proenza this afternoon. Conrad Lautenbacher, the head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, announced Proenza has been placed on leave "until further notice."

The reassignment puts NHC deputy director Ed Rappaport, 49, into the director's hot seat. I greatly respect Dr. Rappaport, who has done a great job as deputy director and is a highly skilled hurricane forecaster. Dr. Rappaport has a Ph.D. in Atmospheric Sciences from Texas Tech. He began work in 1988 at NHC, and served as one NHC's Hurricane Specialists before becoming chief of the Technical Support Branch. He is the best choice for director of NHC. He had wide support to become director last year when Max Mayfield retired, but turned down the job due to family reasons.

Tropical update
There are no threat areas in the tropical Atlantic to discuss, and none of the computer models are forecasting tropical storm formation over the coming week. A cold front is expected to push off the U.S. East Coast by Sunday, and we will have to watch the waters off the North Carolina coast then for development when the front stalls out. In the Pacific, an exceptionally large Category 1 typhoon, Man-Yi, is expected to become a major typhoon, and will threaten Japan late this week.

Jeff Masters
Categories: Politics
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 1001 - 1051

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27Blog Index

1001. Tropicnerd13 8:49 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
that thing off the coast of the carolinas looks impressive, any one think it is worth watching? not like it will hit land, but...
1002. Drakoen 8:55 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
no trpoicnerd read StormW blog also check the buoy. The pressure at the surface is relatively high. Any lowering is becuase of the dinural phase.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1003. eaglesrock 8:55 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
1000
1004. Tropicnerd13 8:57 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
i think that the blog and the tropics are telling us to get off the computer and go outside. i know how to get most of you to do that, or at least it worked last night.guess what? its time for the cruising weather update! dont forget to pack some head on for the cruise we are subliminally forcing you to go on, considering the weather is great!!!
head on apply directly to the forehead.
1005. weathersp 8:57 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Good Morning Man-Yi! Time to become a big powerful super typhoon!

Link
Member Since: January 14, 2007 Posts: 17 Comments: 4112
1006. Drakoen 9:00 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
10/1433 UTC 13.9N 135.4E T4.5/4.5 MAN-YI
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1007. Drakoen 9:01 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Looks like its gonna hit Japan. May even affect places like tokyo.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1008. Tropicnerd13 9:01 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
thanks weathersp. did you look at the waves north, east, and northeast of man yi? they look pretty good.
1009. Drakoen 9:02 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Trying to pop out an eye.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1010. Ivansurvivr 9:02 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Too early in the season for development that far north. Too much mid latitude fronts/cool sst.s close by. If one forms east of Fl now nc would have something to watch. This is just a mid lattitude fish/bermuda blob. Watch the stationary front that ends up in the gulf this weekend.
1011. Drakoen 9:03 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Monster Man-Yi
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1012. CJ5 9:04 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Just a little tidbit; since 1995 there have been 9 "above normal" seasons, 1 "below normal" (97) and 2 "near-normal" season.

You can take that two ways 1) Things are above normal and likely to continue or 2) its time for below-normal season.

Link
Member Since: July 4, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 1711
1013. Tropicnerd13 9:04 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
yeah drak. it sure sucks to be asia right now.
1015. Drakoen 9:05 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
the current forecast track has it right near Tokyo. This is gonna be a big thing for Japan considering it is Tokyo.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1016. Drakoen 9:07 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: JoshNHurricanes at 9:04 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.

Hey drakoen hows your day?, im not so sure what the MJO is but if it is here the 12th then doesent that mean we can start seeing systems forming?


I am good. The MJO its already here in a weak state. Basically the mositure content increase therefore allowing more favorable conditions for development as far as moisture goes.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1017. Ivansurvivr 9:07 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
I'm glad they don't get that big here(usually). Thats gonna be a long ride for someone.
1018. Tropicnerd13 9:07 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
i think it needs a little more cloud coverage to the north...
1019. groundman 9:08 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Is it my imagination or are the waves that are between 30W and 50 W holding together better than the previous ones?? Not saying they will make it, but could be a trend?
1020. Drakoen 9:09 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1021. Tropicnerd13 9:10 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
hey drak that isnt the cone of uncertainty, that is the cone of you're gonna get $cr#w#d!
1022. Drakoen 9:10 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: groundman at 9:08 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.

Is it my imagination or are the waves that are between 30W and 50 W holding together better than the previous ones?? Not saying they will make it, but could be a trend?


It is the ITCZ. so the moisture is increased by that. Waveshave a more moist environment when the head to the south then west. The SAL is still there to the north, but i expect that to change once the MJO gets over there.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1023. Drakoen 9:12 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Yes that means that if you are in the cone you are at risk. Sometime the cone can change dramatically like Ernesto and sometimes it is doesn't move much like Wilma.
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1024. Tropicnerd13 9:12 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
yeah groundman, i have noticed that too. maybe the people that said 96l cleared the way for others were right.
1025. Ivansurvivr 9:13 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Very little activity last year+Positive mdo+enso neuutral= likely bad season. I never was much good at math though.
1026. Tropicnerd13 9:15 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
i know what you mean, drak, im just saying that if the cone is over you, that storm is so big no matter which way it goes you are $cr#w#d.
1028. Tropicnerd13 9:17 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
hey drak, what size is that image?
1029. eye 9:18 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
there is alot of....shocking....dry air to the N of that thing, thus why there isnt much convection toward the N.
Member Since: August 21, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 147
1030. Drakoen 9:18 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: JoshNHurricanes at 9:17 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.

so we could possibly see some development within the next couple days?


i don't think so maybe next week...
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1031. Ivansurvivr 9:20 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Big storms often have a mind of their own. They can steer everything around them or steer themselves. Katrina comes to mind. Mitch 1998 too. They both went south when they were supposed to go west or north.
1032. Ivansurvivr 9:22 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Don't get your hopes up until AUGUST.
1034. Tropicnerd13 9:24 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
drak, do you think you could post one of those pictures of the burmuda high over florida? that is very interesting. could a storm be pulled around it and curve back into the gulf like that one ivan?
1035. Tropicnerd13 9:26 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
which one was near normal? 2006 or 2004?
1036. GainesvilleGator 9:26 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Hey groundman, these waves will probably be parading across the Carribean & SW Atlantic in about three weeks. The "real" season starts Aug 1. June & July are kinda like the "preseason". Early on various agencies were predicting gloom & doom. Recently UKMET said another dud of a season. I don't see a repeat of either 2005 or 2006. Every season has its own identity. 2004 was different from 2005 which was different from 2006.

Dr. Masters will probably give his 2-week forcaste by Monday, July 16th. It will be interesting to see how the A/B high looks at that time.
Member Since: September 11, 2005 Posts: 4 Comments: 733
1037. groundman 9:27 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: Drakoen at 9:18 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.
Posted By: JoshNHurricanes at 9:17 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.

so we could possibly see some development within the next couple days?

i don't think so maybe next week...


By next week we will be hitting lips with fingers sideways going bbbbbbbbbbbbb. LOL By August we may be stark raving mad, I think it's the two storms early, we were spoiled very very fast.
1038. Tropicnerd13 9:32 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
1989 was a terrible year for galveston...
1039. groundman 9:32 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: GainesvilleGator at 9:26 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.
........................... I don't see a repeat of either 2005 or 2006. Every season has its own identity. 2004 was different from 2005 which was different from 2006..........................




I think you are right about the uniqueness of this season. I'm human and impaitient though.

As a sidelight a friend of mine went swimming yesterday with a air raft in the gulf, she said the water was just like a warm bath.
1040. Ivansurvivr 9:32 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Time to up his PROZAC. If he ever tangles with a big storm he'll need it.
1041. Michale 9:37 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Well, the strife at the NHC sure makes one thing perfectly clear..

Don't rock the boat, even if it is in public safety's interest..

I would still like to know why the NOAA let QuickSCAT get so bad, but yet spent a couple million on an office party??


Michale.....
Member Since: June 19, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 98
1042. Tropicnerd13 9:38 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
this is what i was talking about.
hurricane ivan
1043. clwstmchasr 9:39 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Three weeks ago I predicted that Chantal would be born on July 14th. Looks like I was quite wrong. I'm now moving Chantal out until August 6th.

Still waiting for wind shear to calm down. Also, African Dust and dry air across the Atlantic is still prevelant.
Member Since: July 29, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 2783
1044. Jedkins 9:39 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Man-yi is like a sumo wrestler, LOL.



Reminds me a lot of ole hurricane frances that pummeled Florida for 3 days due to its massive circulation. It came very close to us actually, we had litereally 2 days straight of tropical storm force winds and heavy bands of rain that pounded us. Dumped almost 20 inches of rain here, ripped roofs off mobile homes downed tons of wires and flooded raodways and swelled drainage ditches past their banks.



Eccept Man-yi is even bigger, reminds me of typhoon tip, not quite that big, but its darn big enough.
1045. Ivansurvivr 9:40 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
This year has been the same way 4 much of Texas, just didn't have a name this time. Weaker tropical systems(in my experiences)
more rain than the stronger ones. Irene 1999
was a wet one, Ivan seemed like a "dry one" So did Andrew.
1046. Tropicnerd13 9:41 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
that makes no sense to me either michale.
1047. Ivansurvivr 9:42 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
I Remember it quite well. UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL!
1048. Drakoen 9:43 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Member Since: October 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29012
1049. CJ5 9:43 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: Tropicnerd13 at 9:26 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.
which one was near normal? 2006 or 2004?


06 and 02...I missed one, corrected.
Member Since: July 4, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 1711
1050. nawlinsdude 9:46 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
TWC said Man-yi is roughly the size of the GOM. Thats big.
1051. Jedkins 9:47 PM GMT on July 10, 2007    
Posted By: Ivansurvivr at 9:40 PM GMT on July 10, 2007.

This year has been the same way 4 much of Texas, just didn't have a name this time. Weaker tropical systems(in my experiences)
more rain than the stronger ones. Irene 1999
was a wet one, Ivan seemed like a "dry one" So did Andrew.




It just seems that way because the windsa and surge take all the attention, but Ivan produced plenty of rain, as for Andrew well, was too small and moved very fast, if it was larger and smallr moving it would have allowed its torrents to build up.





See the reason why is more organized hurreicanes typically moved faster, and about half of hurricanes that become strong also shrinks, which lessens their potential to accumulate lots of rain.


However, the intensity of the storms rain actually does increase as it gets stronger.



As I already mentioned, the surge and winds take the attention as hurricanes get strong.




Oh and another big thingas hurricane winds get very intense, rain guages cannot efficiently or accurately collect how much rain falls due to rain spraying sideways and blowing in odd directions with the wind as it richochets of buildings and other strcutures. As a result, more rain can easily fall then actually reported in a hurricane as it attains higher entensities


Hope that explains it for ya.

Viewing: 1001 - 1051

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity