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Probe recommends Proenza's permanent removal; Atlantic and Hawaiian tropical update
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:11 PM GMT on July 20, 2007 +2
At a Congressional hearing yesterday, results of the independent probe sent by NOAA to investigate management problems at the National Hurricane Center were presented by Dr. Jim Turner. Dr. Turner is deputy director of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, and was leader of the independent team of five people sent to NHC on July 2. Their report (Attachment 9) recommended the permanent removal of Bill Proenza as director of NHC (also called the Tropical Prediction Center, or TPC):

"The current TPC director should be reassigned and not be allowed to return to his position at the center. This should be done due to his failure to demonstrate leadership within the TPC rather than his public statements about the QuikSCAT satellite or NOAA leadership."

In his testimony, the administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Conrad Lautenbacher, presented some very damaging evidence against Mr. Proenza. Lautenbacher's written testimony includes a letter (Attachment 2) providing a detailed description of a conference call requested by 11 NHC employees (including 7 of 9 of the hurricane forecasters), with the acting head of the National Weather Service, Mary Glackin. If you want to better understand the NHC controversy, read Attachment 2 describing what was said during the June 19 meeting.

I'll make one more post this afternoon analyzing the science of what was presented at the Congressional hearing. Then, it's time to let this issue fade until the next Congressional hearing on the issue, tentatively planned for December or January. The tropics are starting to heat up, and it's time to focus on the coming hurricane season.

Tropical wave near Puerto Rico
A tropical wave near Puerto Rico is spreading clouds and thunderstorms over a wide area of the Eastern Caribbean, northern Lesser Antilles Islands, and surrounding waters. This wave is under about 20-30 knots of wind shear, thanks to the presence of an upper-level low pressure system to its northwest (Figure 1). This upper low is expected to stay in place an continue to bring hostile wind shear to the area the next few days. I don't expect the shear will allow anything to develop from this tropical wave.


Figure 1. Water vapor image from this morning showing the tropical wave near Puerto Rico, and the upper level low with dry air (dark colors) to its northwest. This upper level low sucking in moist air from the tropical wave, and is bringing hostile wind shear of 20-30 knots over it.

We will need to watch the waters off the Carolina coast on Saturday, when a cold front is expected to push off the coast. Most of the models are predicting the formation of a low pressure system along the tail end of this front by Sunday. This low may be an ordinary extratropical storm--or possibly a subtropical storm--due to the presence of high wind shear. NHC has put a Hurricane Hunter aircraft on standby to investigate the region on Sunday afternoon, if necessary. Even if the low is extratropical, it may be able to suck up plenty of tropical moisture and douse the mid-Atlantic coast and/or New England with heavy rains as early as Monday.

Cosme to skirt Hawaii
Residents of the Hawaiian Islands can relax a bit now, as it appears that Tropical Depression Cosme, will pass well south of the Big Island on Saturday. The edges of the outermost spiral bands will probably bring rains of 1-3 inches to the east side of the Big Island. Wind shear has fallen to 5-10 knots, and ocean temperatures are beginning to warm to 80F under the storm, and I expect Cosme will regain minimal tropical storm strength by Saturday. Satellite imagery of the storm shows that the amount of heavy thunderstorm activity has remained about constant so far today.

Jeff Masters
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252. IKE 7:27 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Posted By: Tazmanian at 2:19 PM CDT on July 20, 2007.
not that i want to see any thing out there but you no what i am trying to say


I will admit...so far the Atlantic season has been dull.
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254. IKE 7:29 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Posted By: jphurricane2006 at 2:27 PM CDT on July 20, 2007.
once again I disagree IKE


Two weeks from today will be August 3rd...that's not early in the season anymore...that's approaching the heart of the season.
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256. IKE 7:29 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
look at 1999 Bret formed on August 19th and we had 12 named storms, every year is different, but saying even in 2 weeks more without a storm, doesnt mean the year is a bust

I didn't say that.
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257. Tazmanian 7:30 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
yes you are right Atlantic season has been dull
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259. LuvsStorms 7:33 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
I feel that this has turned into my guilty pleasure. Long time lurker, however since the two LA hurricanes, I've seen devastation first hand and I feel a little guilty for coming to the site and seeing that there is nothing going on in the Atlantic? Does this make sense to anyone else?
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261. bobw999 7:33 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
1992- Andrew in August, how many storms? 6
262. moonlightcowboy 7:35 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Jp, there's no winning this debate with you. I'm through.

QS was already being replaced before Proenza came along. What do you think Goes is and other weather-related projects. Do you think the whole weather industry was sitting around with their thumb up their _ _ _ waiting for a Proenza to come along and save the day? Hardly.

The fact that he got some additional money into a budget, well, that's great. That's his job. Any director should be doing just that.

His antics were pathetic, trying to lead a team of scientific, weather professionals from a bully pulpit with a whip! Wrong man for the job, that simple!
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265. WPBHurricane05 7:37 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
I say we will have 13-15 named storms with 7-9 hurricanes. That prediction includes Barry.
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266. Fshhead 7:37 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
LOL I see the ULL I was talking about yesterday pretty much took care of the wave near PR!!
I got a question for you guys??
Where do these ULL'S keep popping up from? They did same thing last year. It was like a wave would flare & POOF a ULL to shear it to death. Also how is this ULL sitting right where I thought was the Bermuda High???
All I know is living in Fla. you gotta LOVE dem ULL'S lol
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267. 900MB 7:37 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Pressure starting to drop at Yucatan Buoy and some convection just reappearing.

Wind Direction (WDIR): E ( 80 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 13.6 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 17.5 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 2.6 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 6 sec
Average Period (APD): 4.0 sec
Mean Wave Direction (MWD): ESE ( 105 deg true )
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.93 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.03 in ( Falling )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 84.9 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 86.4 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 76.8 °F
Heat Index (HEAT): 95.2 °F
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272. MissBennet 7:40 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Despite the slow start so far, I'm still not planning any vacations in August. I'm relying solely on a hurricane-vacation to give me my break.
275. guygee 7:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Posted By: moonlightcowboy at 7:35 PM GMT on July 20, 2007.
Wrong man for the job, that simple!

A job he never asked for, a job he was demoted into. A setup for failure from the start, because he was a whistleblower fighting for the public interest. Anyone who is not completely subservient to the Executive Branch is a marked man. Goodbye career, past accomplishments and science be damned.

The shoddy treatment and wholesale firing of government scientists who are not afraid to speak out and speak freely is the real scandal here.


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283. moonlightcowboy 7:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Fired, sure! He was fired; but he was really let go because he couldn't command the respect of his peers! A trouble maker, pure and simple. A man that couldn't listen to the people entrusted to serving the public's interest. A showboat. The type that lets authority go to their heads.

Proenza, for sure, I'm glad he's not at the helm. The man simply can't lead!
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286. Fshhead 7:52 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
MICHAEL BOTH OF THOSE "SYSTEMS" YOU ARE REFERRING TO ARE ULL'S!!!!!!!
The conditions are supposed to shift but c'mon its like I heard 2 days ago a couple of people here were saying the wave off PR was going to be a cat 5 hurricane... Calm down you guys WILL get your storms before the season over in a few months......
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288. Fshhead 7:55 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
STL, thanx for the info. on typhoon Loke!!! I did not know of it helping the El-Nino. Tell you what though it makes sense lol
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289. MisterPerfect 7:56 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
A man that couldn't listen to the people entrusted to serving the public's interest. A showboat. The type that lets authority go to their heads.

Sounds like he's better suited for Congress or the White House.
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291. Fshhead 7:57 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Mister, what a PERFECT statement LMAO!!!!!!
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292. stoormfury 8:04 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
CATL wave althogh devoid of significant convection and embedded in dry air ,still mentains it's identity. it would be quite interesting, if convection were to build around what appears to be a small circulation
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293. WPBHurricane05 8:05 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
One is late July Four in Aug. Four in Sept Two in Oct Pretty active so JP that is ten. You got four more. Add another one or two in Sept. Still two short. If you are right certainly it will be really active. Hope you all have a great wken

Dont forget that some storms form in November and December also. So 1 in July, 4 in August, 4 in September, 2 in October and 2 in November and 1 in December. That would give us 15 including Barry.
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295. sporteguy03 8:06 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
I am glad its quiet I can enjoy my weekend in calmness in FL. Hope it stays that way. It would be cool if we only have 2 storms, but very low chances of that.
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300. WPBHurricane05 8:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
I would vote Proenza over the clowns that run any day.
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301. WPBHurricane05 8:10 PM GMT on July 20, 2007    
Uh oh that was a political statement.
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