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TD 10 spawns EF-1 tornado in Florida; new disturbance a threat to Texas and Louisiana
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:24 PM GMT on September 22, 2007 +4
Tropical Depression Ten moved ashore last night over the Florida Panhandle, bringing rains of 1-5 inches over the region (Figure 1). The most serious weather associated with the depression occurred when a tornado ripped through Eustis, Florida at 11 pm Friday night. The EF-1 tornado had winds up to 105 mph, and damaged about 100 homes. The remnants of TD Ten are over southern Mississippi this morning, and additional severe weather or heavy rain is not expected.


Figure 1. Estimated rainfall for TD 10 from the Tallahassee, Florida radar.

Western Caribbean disturbance 94L
An area of disturbed weather in the western Caribbean between the Yucatan Peninsula and Jamaica is associated with a surface trough of low pressure. NHC designated this area "94L" this morning. Satellite loops show that the heavy thunderstorm activity has increased today in the region, but remains disorganized. A buoy in the region recorded sustained winds of 31 knots, gusting to 35 at 4:50 am EDT. The winds have since subsided to 20 knots. Cancun radar shows heavy rains have already moved ashore over the eastern Yucatan. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed no signs of a circulation, and very little evidence of even a wind shift in the region. Thus, the earliest I expect 94L can become a tropical depression is Sunday afternoon. An Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft is scheduled to investigate 94L Sunday afternoon.

This disturbance will bring heavy rains to Belize, Cozumel, Cancun, and western Cuba today as it crosses the Yucatan Peninsula. Moisture streaming northwards from the disturbance will also cause locally heavy rains across the Florida Peninsula. Wind shear has dropped to about 10 knots over the disturbance, and the NOGAPS and GFS models predict this shear will stay low enough to allow a tropical depression to form on Sunday when 94L crosses into the Gulf of Mexico. By Monday afternoon, my best guess is that 94L will make landfall near the Texas/Louisiana border. That doesn't give it much time to organize into a tropical depression or tropical storm. Today's 12Z (8 am EDT) run of the GFDL model did not develop 94L. The 12Z SHIPS model developed it into a 45-mph tropical storm by Monday morning. Regardless, Texas and/or Louisiana can expect very heavy rains Monday and Tuesday from this system.

Elsewhere in the tropics
A few clumps of heavy thunderstorm activity exist along the Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), about 800-1200 miles east of the southernmost Lesser Antilles. This activity is moving west at 10-15 mph, and is very disorganized. Nevertheless, the region is under only about 10 knots of wind shear, so we will need to watch this area for development. A tropical wave near 6N, 23W, about 60 miles south of the Cape Verdes Islands off the coast of Africa, has some vigorous thunderstorm activity associated with it. This morning's 4:30 am EDT ASCAT pass showed a nearly complete circulation, and visible satellite images also show a fair bit of spin. This wave has the potential to develop into a tropical depression early next week as it moves westward at 15 mph.

I'll be traveling Sunday, and will not post a blog if the Western Caribbean disturbance fizzles. Otherwise, I'll post something late Sunday afternoon when the Hurricane Hunter mission sends back data.

Jeff Masters
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1. seflagamma 2:25 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
we have invest 94L
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2. southmissman 2:26 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Thanks
3. taco2me61 2:26 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Thanks Dr Masters for the update...
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4. IKE 2:27 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Thanks 4 your update.
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5. Drakoen 2:27 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
thank you.
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6. StormJunkie 2:28 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Thanks Dr M :~)

GHCC site usually updates before the SSD site. SSD is usually 15-30 minutes behind the SSD site. I do like the overlays on the SSD site and the CIMSS site as well. Also like the fact that the North America GOES east imagery updates more often on the GHCC as well as providing a higher zoom factor then the other sectors there.

Also find that link and much more on the Quick Links page.
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7. Patrap 2:28 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
LSU Earth Scan Lab..

Link
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8. sporteguy03 2:29 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
I have no problem with forecasts on the Hurricane season, alot of things have to do with politics. Everyone has an opinion and they are entitled to voice it. Why would Dr.Masters care if it is a busy season or not? His site is not just tropical weather. Last time I checked weather is not like a business, it does not go out of business or foreclose, it is always there and will be there as will someone's opionions on what it is going to do.
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9. hurricane667 2:29 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
SJ, wher do you find the North America GOES east imagery
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10. seflagamma 2:30 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Oh no, if he doesn't put up a new blog until late Sunday afternoon and it is weekend and everyone will watch 94L then this blog will be crazy with posts. We are all going to have to really watch what we post carefully and try not to run the number of comments up to quickly.
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11. taco2me61 2:31 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Dr. Masters,
Just wondering usually this time of year these things (Storms) turn more to the right or east should I say. With this new invest (94L) I know it shows it going towards the western gulf coast, possible TX/LA area but do you think this could make that turn to the right before it gets that far north west???

Taco :0)
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12. StormJunkie 2:32 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
667, go to the first link in my last post. Select one of the first three maps at top depending on if you want WV, Infrared, or visibile. Then below that image there will be a drop down box that let's you select the number of frames you want to see, up to 30 frames, then change the single image to Animation. Then just click on the area of the map you want to see.
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13. Drakoen 2:33 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Weather radar out of cancun.
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14. zoomiami 2:34 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
SJ - just watched the tutorial - really liked it, will look for more. Thanks
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15. seafarer459 2:35 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Patrap'

LOL. Leave it to you to bring a little levity to the blog..

OOH RAH LEATHER NECK
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20. TerraNova 2:39 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
94l
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21. HopquickSteve 2:39 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
There is a real possibility that this invest can get pulled up fast towards LA/TX border, as soon as 60 hrs (see GFS link below). There is a lot this system can do (it's far out and it COULD do NOTHING). My fear is that what it will do it can do VERY quickly.

GFS 850mb vorticity shows lots of spin at 60 hrs. Not to scare ppl, but this is the 4th or 5th run that detected this, but the models don't develop the surface pressures to match the vorticity at the 850mb level.

The nice thing is that the ATL/GOMEX's potential for class 5s are winding down a bit. Especially when compared to the W PAC.

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22. Patrap 2:40 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Levity is sometimes needed to quell the er, fray,
Semper Fi!
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23. plywoodstatenative 2:42 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Semper Fi, Patrap.

That thing down by the Yucatan flooded me out yesterday. More rain in one day than I have seen all year long here in south florida
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24. TerraNova 2:43 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
We'll have the models and intensity forecasts out on 94L soon...looks like the Western Caribbean and the Gulf especially need to watch this system.

maunakea
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25. Patrap 2:44 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Thats how it goes seems..drought then deluge. YA got caught in the ol Moisture plume.Saw that.
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26. TerraNova 2:45 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
The NCEP FTP server has 94L's center located near 18.0N, 85.5W and the pressure at 1010mb.
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27. StormJunkie 2:45 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Pat make sure you do your crow up Cajun style for me! I 'll get mine prepped as well. Have some Crow and grits ready for ya!

LSU seems to have a hard time with day games in that stadium as well. No to mention "The 'Ol Ball Coach" will have the boys ready to go!

And just to keep this post on the up and up, seems the GFS is forecasting shear to reduce over the next 4 days for that area off the E coast.
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28. PensacolaDoug 2:46 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Here we go again!
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29. HopquickSteve 2:46 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
EWW, Terranova. If I am reading this right, we already have -80 to -85C cloudtops. If this spins, we have something to worry about. May the Coriolis not be with you.
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30. Patrap 2:46 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Crow,,over Game?

LOL..Okay..Ill serve if THAT happens.
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31. cattlebaroness 2:46 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Hopskip, what does that mean? Sorry but I am just trying to learn. Dr.M is saying that this system will move very quickly in the gulf so development past TS is not likely. Are you interpretting another set of possibilities. TIA
33. Patrap 2:48 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
SJ..I had a 0730 MRI downtown..on way back lil while ago on Interstate,,got passed by some LSU folks going up to Baton Rouge.Almost got freaking run over from 3 of them crazy Suckas,..LOL
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34. StormJunkie 2:50 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Sure pat, college ball is all about big talk, hype, over confidence, etc...The tropics on the other hand are a little more serious though so not really sure the crow fits in as well. Not to mention that we should all be keeping an open mind when analyzing the tropics and accept that we will be wrong sometimes. ☺
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35. atmoaggie 2:50 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Aside: SJ, I did not get a reply from you about that pic. Geaux Tigers. (The Aggies are not worth the effort.)

Look at the vertical instability in the Caribbean.

instab
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36. Patrap 2:52 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
I never forecast..I only observe as you probably noticed. SOme take the stuff WAY to seriously here. Its a PHD's blog. I would never try to forecast. Hard enought to digest the current, than to Quija da future .
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38. taco2me61 2:53 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Good Morning Sheri,
It is a Good day that we are not cleaning up after this thing that could have been really bad.... I was thinking the same thing ("fishing") just will have a rain coat ready though...LOL
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39. Patrap 2:53 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
I study coastal Impact.The tracking and stuff is cool an relevant. But impacts are what affect Folks . Thats my focus.Always
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40. aubiesgirl 2:53 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
wow just tuned back in....you guys that were on here early this morning..called it right!!..I see we have 94l!
41. Patrap 2:54 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
HAve a feeling Clem and his Bros will make an appearance for 94L
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44. sporteguy03 2:56 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
In weather just like sports anything can happen!
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45. StormJunkie 2:57 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Good points pat! I really don't think I try to forecast either, that said, I do speculate sometimes. Try to make it clear that is all I am doing though.
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46. Patrap 2:57 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    

Posted By: TampaSpin at 9:55 AM CDT on September 22, 2007.
Posted By: Patrap at 10:52 AM EDT on September 22, 2007.

My futher son-in-law has a Cock jersey on today. Any piece of advice.....lol



Id wear a Hard-hat up there If I were Him
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47. HopquickSteve 2:57 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
cattlebaroness:

I didn't make any comment about intensity, what I did say is that it could move very quickly. The models that have picked it up, have it making landfall as soon as 60 hours. That being said, it could be a dud like Depression 10. :)
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48. NorthxCakalaky 2:58 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
question for the experts
Kinda early though, but with current conditions.

If 94L hit TX,La, will it go to the south-east for the drought areas. And/or will it go to the midwest U.S?

49. aubiesgirl 2:58 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
ok so am I seein this right...it looks like to me on water vapor that ..coc..is on the east side of 94l..am I seein it right?...tryin to learn
50. StormJunkie 2:58 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Tell him to take a few to pass out to the others around him :~)
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51. taco2me61 2:59 PM GMT on September 22, 2007    
Posted By: sporteguy03 at 2:56 PM GMT on September 22, 2007.

In weather just like sports anything can happen!


LOL when it comes to the SEC anyway....
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