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Nothing new with Bertha
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 4:14 PM GMT on July 12, 2008 +2
I'll echo the statement of Hurricane Specialist Lixion Avilla in the 11 am Hurricane Bertha discussion: "After a week or so...I am running out of things to say about Bertha." Hurricane Bertha has slowed to crawl, and remains in no hurry to recurve out to sea. The storm continues its rather sloppy appearance on satellite loops, thanks to the fact that the inner eyewall dissolved, leaving a new, much larger eye. Bertha's structure is sufficiently sloppy that significant intensification is not likely, despite the presence of wind shear less than 10 knots and water temperatures of 27.5°C. Shear is forecast to remain below 10 knots until Monday morning, when it should rise to 20 knots. At that time, Bertha should be over 26°C water, and will probably weaken to tropical storm strength. The Air Force Hurricane Hunters will make their second flight into Bertha this afternoon to check on the storm's strength. The outer spiral bands of Bertha are starting to affect Bermuda (see links below), and the storm is now visible on Bermuda radar.

Links to follow:
Bermuda radar
Current weather at Bermuda
Bermuda WebCam

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Figure 1. Microwave image of Bertha from 5:45 GMT 7/12/2008 showing the vary large eye. Image credit: Navy Research Lab.

High surf of 9-15 feet is already affecting Bermuda, according to the Bermuda Weather Service. There is about a 61% chance the island will experience sustained winds of tropical storm force (40 mph), according to the latest tropical storm wind probability forecast by NHC. Given the very weak steering currents predicted to affect Bertha through Monday, the storm could easily approach closer to the island than the current official forecast. None of the computer models currently foresee that hurricane force winds will impact the island, and I don't expect this will happen.

Elsewhere in the tropics
There are no threat areas to discuss in the tropical Atlantic. The models are more scattered in their prediction of a tropical depression forming between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands 4-7 days from now. One model, the ECMWF, has dropped its forecast of a depression forming, and the two remaining models disagree on just when such a depression might form. There are not any impressive tropical waves near the coast of Africa presently, so I'm currently dubious of the model predictions of a Cape Verdes-type tropical storm forming next week.

I'll post an update Sunday morning.
Jeff Masters
South Shore Bermuda (denmar)
Hurricane Bertha weather in Bermuda on Friday July 11th, 2008
South Shore Bermuda
Hurricane Bertha 2008 (LRandyB)
As we made our into the outer edges of the storm, the clouds began to thicken up and the seas began to get rougher
Hurricane Bertha 2008
Hurricane Bertha 2008 - 6 (LRandyB)
Looking out the window as we approach the outer eyewall, the banding of the clouds is obvious.
Hurricane Bertha 2008 - 6
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154. Cavin Rawlins 7:18 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Also, I may have the area of disturbed weather wrong on my blog (which is the Central Atl disturbance). But I based it on the intialized date which is the 13th i.e. 2mr. Yet the strongest of the disturbance over W Africa is 3 days away from the central atlantic. So there is still alot of uncertainties as to which area will development but the what we know and certain of is the the models are forecasting development next week.
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155. hurricane23 7:19 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Close-up of 72hr Surface Forcast....

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156. tiggeriffic 7:19 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
hey there StormW...looks like the Bamm is taking Bertha closer to Bermuda still....hmmmm?
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157. IpswichWeatherCenter 7:22 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    


IS that an eye forming?
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159. tiggeriffic 7:25 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
hey JFV...doing ok today?
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160. tiggeriffic 7:26 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
storm must be either checking past posts or looking at the data....=)
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162. tiggeriffic 7:27 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
157.

it appears so, that is the one in the Pacific right?
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163. surfmom 7:27 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
rain above me, rain below...but no show here so far
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164. tiggeriffic 7:28 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
not too bad here, i could complain but it wouldn't do any good, LOL
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166. surfmom 7:30 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
I may eat this but I need something to keep the northerners in my family up north - nothing destructive mind you -- just a good scare tactic...
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168. tiggeriffic 7:30 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
if you were needing the rain, I will do my dance surfmom, if not, i will do my rain rain stay away dance, =)
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169. tiggeriffic 7:33 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
ok, peewee not letting me do this, will be back later when he is better occupied =P
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171. surfmom 7:35 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
thanks Tigger! LOL I'm dancing, burning old surfboards, lighting candles and yes (forgive me all) probably wish casting a bit as well. Mate says if we get a storm of mass destruction - he's knows who to blame -- on the other hand we both now he'd rather have cane duty (doodie) rather then in-law doodie, duty, doodie
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173. surfmom 7:37 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
sammy - east coast reports say they look better then they are, it is closing out alot, but "if you have gas in the tank, west coasters should be driving over to the other side" Frankly after the flat spell here, surfing foamies would be something. gulfster.com had some pics w/more to come
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175. surfmom 7:38 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Sorry Sammy I misinterpreted the WAVES you were speaking of LOL Clearly a one-track mind
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176. HurrikanEB 7:39 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
so... where do the modles seem to be taking any new storms?
looks like bertha is trying to wrap herself up a little bit in the last few frames
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177. surfmom 7:40 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Good to see you StormW!!

I am off -- BBL tonight I hope !!
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180. Drakoen 7:43 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Cimss Lower level winds support a broad circulation from 35W-30W.
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183. 0741 7:55 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Quoting Drakoen:
Quoting msphar:
the "new " comment from the 9AM chart was removed from the 3PM chart. Just a sag in the ITCZ.


The NHC still expects a surface low to form within the next 24 hours.
can i get link from i can see that TY
185. Drakoen 7:56 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Quoting StormW:
Hey Drak,
Was it you and I that were discussing easterly shear a few days ago?


I think so.
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186. msphar 7:59 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Boring is good it breeds character on the blog especially in July.
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187. taistelutipu 8:06 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Good evening everyone.

I have to say I'm impressed to see how Bertha still clings to hurricane status although she looks pretty ragged on satellite imagery. Bertha has now achieved an ACE of 17.2, only a bit lower than Felix last year (18.03) which was a Cat.5! If she hangs on a bit longer she'll beat him ACE-wise *lol*
Who would have thought last weekend that she's still around this weekend? I have to admit that I didn't expect her to survive so long.
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188. mississippiwx23 8:07 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
157

No eye, just looks like it on those images. Rather, some convection died down near the center and is re-intensifying now. Definately the strongest convection in the tropical western hemesphere right now. The wave out in the central atlantic appears to have lost almost all of its convection now.
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189. beell 8:08 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
187.
I have to admit that I didn't expect her to survive so long.

Quite the understatement there!

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190. mtyweatherfan90 8:18 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Good afternoon StormW! How is everything goin?
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191. mtyweatherfan90 8:25 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Bertha is lasting longer than what I thought!
She will not surrender 'til the end!
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192. msphar 8:32 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Bertha - cyclogeriactrics, a new field ? if she doesn't move soon will she harvest all the heat from the waters below her ? and give up the spin ?
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193. HurrikanEB 8:42 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
yerp. Im not sure how much or how long it will take, but if she doesnt get a move on pretty soon she's gonna upwell all the cold water and sufficate herself

reminds me of one of the discussions when she formed

Arthur-trans gender storm
Bertha-suicide storm???

Nah...she'll get her act together and be on her way...i think

=) haha
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194. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 8:42 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
big bertha-never ending story
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195. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 8:44 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
i hear its going to take till october to make it to greenland
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196. Drakoen 8:45 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
You can see the cooler water marking Bertha position and track:
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197. Drakoen 8:46 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Our TCHP has been going up:
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199. Jebekarue 8:51 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Hi everyone, long time lurker here from Pensacola. We just got home from Pensacola Beach where we got caught in some nasty storms, 6 people were struck by lightning 300 yards west of the beach fishing pier. Said there was suppose to be 150,000 people on the beach for the Blue Angels air show. They are postponing the air show until tomorrow. Lots of lightning, thunder strong gusty winds.
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200. HurrikanEB 8:56 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Howdy, Jebekarue
Welcome to the Blog!!!


i gotta run.
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201. TampaMishy 8:57 PM GMT on July 12, 2008    
Bertha is like a relative that won't leave! She is over staying her visit!
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